Started this morning around 11 am.. set the MES on 250 with no water in it, checked on em about 1 pm and I didn't like what I saw so I fired up the Outlaw and their gonna finish up in there.. The MES holds a lot of moisture and the rubs im using today turned to mush, The Blueberry Cherry rub that Eric and Dave have been using tastes really good dry. We modified the recipe to our taste , we dropped the Cumin and added 1 TBS All Spice . Dropped the Kosher salt and added the same amount of Mortons salt substitute.. all other ingredients are the same... We also used our basic rub that has a earthy overall tone with a tad of sweetness and a touch of bite at the end.. The kids like a salt and pepper rub with some straight up Kraft BBQ sauce- Got our tile table done last night gonna be a outside dinner/ prep table.