To rinse or not to rinse, that is the question!

Discussion in 'Poultry' started by dirtsailor2003, Jan 13, 2015.

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  1. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

  2. b-one

    b-one Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I don't rinse just to lazy! Good article the splatter reminds me of Dexter🔪
     
  3. I don't rinse mine. If you ever look around the sink after you rinse you will see that it is damp. the damp is bird juice.

    Happy smoken.

    David
     
  4. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Added a poll just for fun!
     
  5. jarjarchef

    jarjarchef Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I never have at home. Work really depends on what my boss says. I don't have my Team wash it, but some old school Chefs insist on it.
     
  6. fpmich

    fpmich Smoking Fanatic

    I'm curious as to who started the chicken rinsing myth. 

    FDA?  

    Or the now famous Serve Safe More recent), which in my belief, was created to push small Mom & Pop places out of business.

    And who ho started Serve Safe?  You may think congress.

    But it was the big chains, who lined congress pockets, with contributions, that got it passed.  Then kept adding to it until it became too costly for small one owners to tolerate. 

    Is there some truth mixed in to food safe guidelines. Yes.

    But there is a bunch of flapdoodle in it too.  Flapdoodle really is a word.  LOL

    Let me ask this.  Where is most of the food poisonings  coming from?

    Chains & large food processors! 

    Only a small percentage is from home cooked food, or small restaurant's.  And yes, if good safety (common sense), isn't practiced, it can happen anywhere.

    But I'll trust my crappy pet dandered kitchen to any restaurant chain.  And for heaven sake, I also use well water without chlorine!

    WHEW!

    OK.  Who pushed my button?  LOL   

    Sorry for the rant, but I guess it had to come out.

    I'm all for safety, but am against nonsense over the top safety, enforced on us these days.

    I think common sense is sufficient. 

    Do they still teach common sense at home, or in schools anymore, without consulting the government rules?

    ______________

    So as you've guessed by now.... I don't rinse my chicken anymore. <sheepish grin>

    I used to, when it became news many years ago, but not anymore.  It tastes better without it.

    And for real chicken taste,

    buy from a farmer who lets his chicken run around the yard to eat bugs, worms, weeds, grass, sand. gravel, and such.

    Ewww... Gross!  Right?

    That chicken may need a little more time in the pan, or pot, but flavor will be 1000 times better than Tyson's, or any store bought!

    SRY... I thought my rant was done.  LOL  A little bit more leaked out it seems.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2015
  7. tropics

    tropics Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I had a guy that I worked with tell me his Grand Father use to put bleach in the water, and wash the bird.
     
  8. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member


    There are some chicken processors that do that today.... It kills surface bacteria, on the processing line, before more stuff can get contaminated... My friends own Draper Valley Farms.... they use(d) it.... when a national survey was done testing for salmonella and other pathogens on store bought chicken.... their chickens came out at the top of the list being one of the most "pathogen" free....
    When Bride demoed food at Costco, they had to wash/rinse all fruits in chlorine bleach... before it went out on their demo tables...
     
  9. atomicsmoke

    atomicsmoke Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Yum
     
  10. tropics

    tropics Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Bleach is very easy to get rid of, Hot Water dissipates it, I use to breed fish and had to bleach tanks, and get them back on the racks . Bleach rinse with hot water refill add fish.
     
  11. atomicsmoke

    atomicsmoke Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    It's OK for sterilizing equipment (I use it) but when you wash meat with it I imagine there would be some "burning" wont it ?
     
  12. tropics

    tropics Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Definitely on my list of not to do bleach the bird.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2015
  13. bandcollector

    bandcollector Master of the Pit OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I am not one to wrestle with my chickens when I am washing them in preparation. 

    This is how Quinlan answers this question in the article:

    What if I run the faucet water very slowly when rinsing my chicken, and I always disinfect my countertops and kitchen sink thoroughly with bleach afterward? I should be fine, no?

    "Food safety researchers haven't really defined a "safe water speed" for rinsing raw poultry. Any time you introduce water or a rinse, you are disturbing the bacteria on the raw poultry and making it likelier that those buggies will fly off your meat and onto some other kitchen surface — or onto you. "I can't make you not take the risk, " Quinlan says, "but you need to know what you are dealing with."

    But then she goes on to say:

    "If you rinse your chicken out of safety concerns, just stop, she says, because you are making it less safe. If you are doing it to enhance flavor, that's fine, but use proper precautions".

    So which is it?  Don't do it at all or use proper precautions? 

    The debate continues...I will continue to rinse my chickens before I "pin them down" for the count!

    Cluck, Cluck,  John
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2015
  14. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member


    Chlorine evaporates within about 24 hours from drinking water...... the amount used is approx. 50 Ppm.... Insignificant in the scheme of things.....
    Think about the nitrite you use in curing... same deal.... the benefits outweigh the negatives, which are few, by miles....
    We bleach our kitchen counters with mild chlorine bleach to kill pathogens... or use vinegar, as acid kills pathogens... or hydrogen peroxide... reducing pathogens in our daily food/processing places/storage facilities is a no brainer....
    Back in the '50's, there were many home remedies to combat pathogens...
    Mothers all over the world took notice of what made their children ill.... the message was passed on from generation to generation... That's where science started....
     
  15. noboundaries

    noboundaries Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I used to rinse all the poultry I cooked because that's what my mother did.  I read an article two or more years ago about rinsed poultry contaminating a kitchen so I stopped.  For some reason I still have to rinse pork.  It's totally a mental thing with me.  As soon as I finish rinsing though I reach for the Clorox cleaner and clean the area thoroughly.   
     
  16. venture

    venture Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I don't rinse.

    When I was a kid, a looong time ago, people raised their own chicken or bought them live to slaughter.

    There was a Swedish woman who always washed her birds in soapy water after plucking.  Of course a good rinse after.

    Good luck and good smoking.
     
  17. gravey

    gravey Smoke Blower

    I don't rinse my poultry, but I do dab it off with paper towels that go directly into the trash. My rubs stick better this way, and I've always hated the idea of chicken 'juice' splattering all over my counters/countertops/floor. I have a very large stainless steel bowl that most of the prep happens in, and that gets washed as soon as possible after prep.
     
  18. foamheart

    foamheart Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I wash everything, well except my hands when smoking, they smell so good!

    I have no fear of clorox. Every time we get a boil water order, out comes the clorox. Long long ago when camping we always too a "diddy bag" and dunked all the dishes in boiling water with some clorox in it. I still use clorox through out my home.

    The reason I always wash my chickens is because I have been known to grow a few. People thing pigs are dirty, bah! There is nothing nastier than a chicken.

    I wear T-shirts all the time around the house and my little god daughter thinks it funny 'cause they all have little bleach burnt holes all over the front. OK, yes, right at about my belly line. LOL

    Nasty chickens, I like all the chicken parts best that most folks turn their noses up at, I also hate well done/dry cooked chicken, its only takes a min or two to clean and rinse a chicken inside and out, so why not?

    It make me happy, and thats what matters.
     
  19. Most chickens aren't completely cleaned.
    I remove any pin and "hair" feathers along with the kidneys...I never cook a chicken with the kidneys still in place.
    Then I RINSE...and I don't give a rat's rump what anybody thinks of it.






    =Martin=
     
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  20. Rinsing Birds -  I do the reason is they need to be cleaned and trimmed up. Years ago when we first moved to East Texas "Bo Pilgrim" of Pilgrims Pride Chickens had a TV commercial he would say "WE don't sell no fat yellow chickens"  Times change, now there is a lot of fat and extra skin that needs to be removed. and I do it in the sink and afterwords wash my bird then brine.

    Bleach -  I am a bleach and alcohol fanatic. I keep a spray bottle of bleach water and alcohol handy at all times. As soon as I finish with the birds everything, the sink, counter, faucet etc. 

    gets sprayed down. A little bleach down the drains. And I too have the shirts to prove it. Keep the Alcohol by the sink quick spray on the hands, fly swatter  whatever,  I do like clean. We have always washed everything.

    Gary
     

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