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[SmokinAl]

Gosh, it's only in one little corner of my computer. Not even distracting.
It doesn't bother me. We wouldn't have any of this without Jeff. So I say if he wants to advertise his stuff it's OK with me.
Al

 

[chilerelleno]

Okay, by definition Jeff's stuff are Ads.
I'll give that to you.

But previous to this you have been subject to Ads everytime Inkbird posted a Discount Sale or Contest Giveaway.
Each one of those has been posted on the Carousel, each one either outright promoted a discounted sale price and linked to Amazon, or included the same in addition to the giveaway contest.

But I don't recall seeing any complaints and demands for refunds.

That noted, I agree with you now.
You should return your Premier membership and be refunded.
I mean after all the contract has been violated and should be voided.

Then you can enjoy all the pop-up ads in their full glory.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

 

[sawhorseray]

I'm guessing Jeff must have some real pull to be the only one to place ads on this site that a Premier member can see. I had no idea that becoming a Premier member included such a perk, tho it doesn't much bother me because I don't really pay any attention to ads anyway. Which brings this to mind! There should be a sticky, or some little thing somewhere, that's leads to what a Premier membership is and how to go about obtaining it. I joined this site quite some time back and had no idea what a Premier member was until I stumbled upon it in the profile section, titled "upgrade". If I hadn't clicked on that I still wouldn't know what to have done. Just sayin' RAY

 

[tropics]

If you're paying not to see ads it doesn't matter who's ads they are they shouldn't be there or your money should be refunded to you in my opinion. An ads an ad regardless of where they originated from.

This what I am saying Thank You
Richie

 

[chilerelleno]

I'm guessing Jeff must have some real pull to be the only one to place ads on this site that a Premier member can see. I had no idea that becoming a Premier member included such a perk, tho it doesn't much bother me because I don't really pay any attention to ads anyway. Which brings this to mind! There should be a sticky, or some little thing somewhere, that's leads to what a Premier membership is and how to go about obtaining it. I joined this site quite some time back and had no idea what a Premier member was until I stumbled upon it in the profile section, titled "upgrade". If I hadn't clicked on that I still wouldn't know what to have done. Just sayin' RAY

Yeah, he has some Pull alright, he owns SMF.com

 

[tropics]

Okay, by definition Jeff's stuff are Ads.
I'll give that to you.

But previous to this you have been subject to Ads everytime Inkbird posted a Discount Sale or Contest Giveaway.
Each one of those has been posted on the Carousel, each one either outright promoted a discounted sale price and linked to Amazon, or included the same in addition to the giveaway contest.

But I don't recall seeing any complaints and demands for refunds.

That noted, I agree with you now.
You should return your Premier membership and be refunded.
I mean after all the contract has been violated and should be voided.

Then you can enjoy all the pop-up ads in their full glory.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

I am glad you see it from my point.I did complain about the Inkbird on the Carousel
Richie

 

[tropics]

Gosh, it's only in one little corner of my computer. Not even distracting.
It doesn't bother me. We wouldn't have any of this without Jeff. So I say if he wants to advertise his stuff it's OK with me.
Al

Al I like to get what I paid for! No Adds you know how it goes give an inch you may as well give up.
Richie

 

[tropics]

I'm guessing Jeff must have some real pull to be the only one to place ads on this site that a Premier member can see. I had no idea that becoming a Premier member included such a perk, tho it doesn't much bother me because I don't really pay any attention to ads anyway. Which brings this to mind! There should be a sticky, or some little thing somewhere, that's leads to what a Premier membership is and how to go about obtaining it. I joined this site quite some time back and had no idea what a Premier member was until I stumbled upon it in the profile section, titled "upgrade". If I hadn't clicked on that I still wouldn't know what to have done. Just sayin' RAY

There was a link it is not working now.

https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/payment.php

Richie

 

[chilerelleno]

Richie, here is your Gotcha.
Affiliate Links
Affiliate Links are different from Ads.
Jeff's stuff and Business members are affiliates.

It is specified that with a Premier membership you can elect to turn off Ads in your Preferences.
But it doesn't say the same about Affiliate Links.

I'd say you're out of luck.
I'm not a lawyer but I did sleep with one once or twice and she rubbed... Off on me.

We are now offering SMF Premier Memberships for those who have asked for this! As always, the forum is absolutely FREE and there is no requirement or expectation, but when you "chip in" it is greatly appreciated.

This forum comes at a cost and we try to offset this with ads and some affiliate links. The premier memberships help to defray the remaining amount.

With a premier membership, you are not only supporting this forum but there are PERKS involved too.

• You get to turn off the Ads
• You can post a link to your website, facebook, etc. in your signature area
• You get a badge on your profile letting everyone know that you "chipped in".
• Notification emails contain the full text

More than anything else, you will have the satisfaction of knowing that you are supporting the forum that you love.

 

[sawhorseray]

Yeah, he has some Pull alright, he owns SMF.com

Thanks Chile, that certainly clarify' s things! I'd have to think if a fellow owned the site he could do as he pleased with it, after all, he OWNS it. I still believe there should be a sticky, or something, to lead folks to what it takes to become a Premier member and what the benefits are. Change is inevitable, I'll just roll with the punches. One thing I do miss is the "your content" that was somewhere around the profile page. I used to be able to look up stuff I posted five years ago, now it only goes back a couple of months, I think. Soon this will settle down and everyone will get back to posting things more related to what this site is all about, smokin' meat. RAY

 

[tropics]

Richie, here is your Gotcha.
Affiliate Links
Affiliate Links are different from Ads.
Jeff's stuff and Business members are affiliates.

It is specified that with a Premier membership you can elect to turn off Ads in your Preferences.
But it doesn't say the same about Affiliate Links.

I'd say you're out of luck.
I'm not a lawyer but I did sleep with one once or twice and she rubbed... Off on me.

Thats BS To me I am in contact with PayPal
Richie

 

[chilerelleno]

Thanks Chile, that certainly clarify' s things! I'd have to think if a fellow owned the site he could do as he pleased with it, after all, he OWNS it. I still believe there should be a sticky, or something, to lead folks to what it takes to become a Premier member and what the benefits are. Change is inevitable, I'll just roll with the punches. One thing I do miss is the "your content" that was somewhere around the profile page. I used to be able to look up stuff I posted five years ago, now it only goes back a couple of months, I think. Soon this will settle down and everyone will get back to posting things more related to what this site is all about, smokin' meat. RAY

Menu is in upper left
Your Threads and Threads with Your Posts, are both in the drop down

 

[chilerelleno]

Thats BS To me I am in contact with PayPal
Richie

It's pretty plain language.
You may not like it, you may not have read and comprehend the implications.
But you bought it.
Realizing it after the fact is not on Jeff, it's on you.
Neither Jeff or PayPal should refund your money the way this is written.

I still think I got what I wanted and paid for.

Good luck with your dispute.

 

[SecondHandSmoker]

The links to Jeff's two other sites were on the old site format as well...

 

[tropics]

It's pretty plain language.
You may not like it, you may not have read and comprehend the implications.
But you bought it.
Realizing it after the fact is not on Jeff, it's on you.
Neither Jeff or PayPal should refund your money the way this is written.

I still think I got what I wanted and paid for.

Good luck with your dispute.

John Their is no way of knowing if it was edited after I paid.I bought it because I liked it Jeff even shut adds off for me before I paid.He has had his Jeff's Links for awhile

That has never bothered me, https://thinbluefoods.com/collections/all
Richie

 

[tropics]

The links to Jeff's two other sites were on the old site format as well...

Check previous post

All Products

Jeff's passion for barbecue and smoking meat is fueled by his desire to help others learn this fine art. These products are his way of saying, “You don't have to do it all by yourself". The world-class flavors found in Jeff's food products are a culmination of years of experimenting and thinking...

thinbluefoods.com

 

[pineywoods]

Since many are commenting with their thoughts here's mine.
It is not free to keep a site like this up and running there are hosting costs, programming costs requiring someone who can write computer codes etc, buying programs and up grading them along with other associated costs. Jeff does sell some smoking related products and does have premier memberships which I'm sure bring in some money he also has some sponsors who pay to support this site and they get to advertise for the cost of that support. Now you nor I know if Jeff makes money or looses money with this site. I would guess it depends on the month and I'm sure for many years it cost him money as he didn't allow any sponsors other than himself. Hosting a very successful website is both a great thing but also a costly thing more content means more hosting capabilities more space, and hosting type programs that can handle more people using the site.
As for the Carousel and a sponsor having an add type post on it Jeff has a few guidelines for what to put on the carousel but the Admins and Moderators can control what appears on it. Most of the time SmokinAl and PC Farmer choose the content but a lot of the time BMudd or I will feature an Inkbird or another sponsors thread which contains an ad and we do that because they do pay to help keep this site up and running and without them and Jeff this site would not exist.
Remember Jeff owns this site he took the financial risks and continues to take them to keep this site up and running. The sponsors are also a part of keeping it running.
No payment is required of the members to be on this site yes you can become a premier member but it is not required to use the site so a couple links that I can choose whether to click on or not does not bother me.
Those are just my personal thoughts and do not reflect the other Admins or Moderators nor the owner of this site's policies.

 

[tropics]

Since many are commenting with their thoughts here's mine.
It is not free to keep a site like this up and running there are hosting costs, programming costs requiring someone who can write computer codes etc, buying programs and up grading them along with other associated costs. Jeff does sell some smoking related products and does have premier memberships which I'm sure bring in some money he also has some sponsors who pay to support this site and they get to advertise for the cost of that support. Now you nor I know if Jeff makes money or looses money with this site. I would guess it depends on the month and I'm sure for many years it cost him money as he didn't allow any sponsors other than himself. Hosting a very successful website is both a great thing but also a costly thing more content means more hosting capabilities more space, and hosting type programs that can handle more people using the site.
As for the Carousel and a sponsor having an add type post on it Jeff has a few guidelines for what to put on the carousel but the Admins and Moderators can control what appears on it. Most of the time SmokinAl and PC Farmer choose the content but a lot of the time BMudd or I will feature an Inkbird or another sponsors thread which contains an ad and we do that because they do pay to help keep this site up and running and without them and Jeff this site would not exist.
Remember Jeff owns this site he took the financial risks and continues to take them to keep this site up and running. The sponsors are also a part of keeping it running.
No payment is required of the members to be on this site yes you can become a premier member but it is not required to use the site so a couple links that I can choose whether to click on or not does not bother me.
Those are just my personal thoughts and do not reflect the other Admins or Moderators nor the owner of this site's policies.

PW Thank You I have gotten use to the carousel in fact Inkbird has ask me to review a few of their products,which when I have time I may take them up on an offer. Thank You Inkbird
As you scroll down the main page Jeff's links are there that has never bothered me,being on the top right side as a pic with a redirect to Bluefoods.com Jeff turned the adds off for me for a week so I could see it I bought in as premiere after awhile I didn't remember when it was due to expire I upgraded to Lifetime Premiere.
The new format opened yesterday AM with No Adds
Again Thank You
Richie

 

[forktender]

Since many are commenting with their thoughts here's mine.
It is not free to keep a site like this up and running there are hosting costs, programming costs requiring someone who can write computer codes etc, buying programs and up grading them along with other associated costs. Jeff does sell some smoking related products and does have premier memberships which I'm sure bring in some money he also has some sponsors who pay to support this site and they get to advertise for the cost of that support. Now you nor I know if Jeff makes money or looses money with this site. I would guess it depends on the month and I'm sure for many years it cost him money as he didn't allow any sponsors other than himself. Hosting a very successful website is both a great thing but also a costly thing more content means more hosting capabilities more space, and hosting type programs that can handle more people using the site.
As for the Carousel and a sponsor having an add type post on it Jeff has a few guidelines for what to put on the carousel but the Admins and Moderators can control what appears on it. Most of the time SmokinAl and PC Farmer choose the content but a lot of the time BMudd or I will feature an Inkbird or another sponsors thread which contains an ad and we do that because they do pay to help keep this site up and running and without them and Jeff this site would not exist.
Remember Jeff owns this site he took the financial risks and continues to take them to keep this site up and running. The sponsors are also a part of keeping it running.
No payment is required of the members to be on this site yes you can become a premier member but it is not required to use the site so a couple links that I can choose whether to click on or not does not bother me.
Those are just my personal thoughts and do not reflect the other Admins or Moderators nor the owner of this site's policies.

Sure there are costs to keep the forum running. But the hits we provide by frequenting the site allow google to spam all of us wether we like it or not. And Im not talking about only ads on this site. Google bombards each and everyone of us away from this site with the data that their robots collect. So its a vicious circle. If Jeff wasn't doing well with his ad revenue this site would've most likely folded years ago. I don't have any beef with ads at all. But what was posted above isn't speaking the whole truth.

 

[SmokinAl]

That option isn't their anymore Al. Steph said something bout not available on the system that we are using anymore so you have to save the pic to your pc.

Since many are commenting with their thoughts here's mine.
It is not free to keep a site like this up and running there are hosting costs, programming costs requiring someone who can write computer codes etc, buying programs and up grading them along with other associated costs. Jeff does sell some smoking related products and does have premier memberships which I'm sure bring in some money he also has some sponsors who pay to support this site and they get to advertise for the cost of that support. Now you nor I know if Jeff makes money or looses money with this site. I would guess it depends on the month and I'm sure for many years it cost him money as he didn't allow any sponsors other than himself. Hosting a very successful website is both a great thing but also a costly thing more content means more hosting capabilities more space, and hosting type programs that can handle more people using the site.
As for the Carousel and a sponsor having an add type post on it Jeff has a few guidelines for what to put on the carousel but the Admins and Moderators can control what appears on it. Most of the time SmokinAl and PC Farmer choose the content but a lot of the time BMudd or I will feature an Inkbird or another sponsors thread which contains an ad and we do that because they do pay to help keep this site up and running and without them and Jeff this site would not exist.
Remember Jeff owns this site he took the financial risks and continues to take them to keep this site up and running. The sponsors are also a part of keeping it running.
No payment is required of the members to be on this site yes you can become a premier member but it is not required to use the site so a couple links that I can choose whether to click on or not does not bother me.
Those are just my personal thoughts and do not reflect the other Admins or Moderators nor the owner of this site's policies.

Great explanation Piney!
I agree with everything you wrote!
Without Jeff there would be no site, and he is entitled to make a few $ for his effort. If that means advertising his products & featuring his sponsors products. Big deal, you don't have to read them & they don't interfere with your navigation of the site, if your a Premier member. I joined for life when I first signed up, and think $100 is a cheap price to pay for the info that is shared on here.
Al