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What type smoker to buy

Discussion in 'Messages for All Guests and Members' started by Hank151, Oct 1, 2018.

  1. Hank151

    Hank151 Newbie

    Hi all Im relatively new at smoking meat I started about 5 yrs ago on my primo ceramic kamodo grill and I really enjoy it, And I feel like it’s time to upgrade I’m torn between a Lang 36 patio and possibly a Pitmaker safe smoker I know there two totally different styles of grills. One minute I think I have my mind made up and I come across some negative reviews and the next minute I come across negative reviews of the other one. I’m really not sure which way to go anymore lol. This rig will be used solely in the yard for a small family. I’m open to other brands also can’t hurt to confuse me anymore ha. Any advice guys and gals have on either one of these toys or others I should look at is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Hank
     
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  2. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Both work well. Me, I'm old and can't fuss with refinishing and rust removal. I have looked hard at the Vault as I think there would be less maintenhance on the exterior...JJ
     
  3. Hank151

    Hank151 Newbie

    Hi thanks for the reply Chefjimmy I think I’m leaning towards the pit master safe would be plenty enough grill for my needs. Anyone on here have experience with this rig I hear a lot of people’s cons about them is there hard to maintain 225.
     
  4. The Lang 36 is a costly rig, but is supposed to be the top of it's class. I'd like one persay, but simply don't have the $$$$ to justify the purchase
     
  5. gmc2003

    gmc2003 Smoking Guru

    I really haven't heard to many negatives about either. Both will do what you want, but I'll toss out another choice that is well represented on the forum. How about looking into the WSM. It comes in 3 sizes and is probably one of the better bang for your buck smokers out there.

    Chris
     
  6. Hank,
    I have a Lang 36 patio and I love it. Yes it's expensive but worth it, once it's up to temp it holds very steady. At 608 lbs she's solid but easy to move around. I've smoked fish, pork, beef, chicken even cold smoked cheese in her.
    I've had her for 3 years now and I'm still experimenting with different recipes.
    My only regret is I didn't by the 48 for the extra cooking space.
    Teddy
     
  7. Hank151

    Hank151 Newbie

    Thanks for the advice I’m gonna check that one out as well
     
  8. Hank151

    Hank151 Newbie

    Hey Teddy in your opinion if your doing an all night brisket is it safe to assume on the Lang your gonna be up all night tending the fire? I still go back and forth in my head if I want a set it and forget it type like I have now with the ceramic grill or something thats a lot more me tending the fire.
     
  9. Hank151

    Hank151 Newbie

    Yea I hear ya there pricey all the good ones really but I figure but the hell been saving my whole life, life is short and gotta treat yourself to something once in awhile that’s why I’m so torn it’s to expensive of a toy to land up not liking and have it just sitting in the
    Yard doing nothing
     
  10. SmokinAl

    SmokinAl Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I have a Lang 36 & you have to keep feeding it all night. I also have a WSM 22.5, with a BBQ Guru controller. It will run for 22+ hours on one load of charcoal with wood chunks mixed in. And the Guru will hold any temp you set it at, until the fuel runs out. If I do a butt or brisket on the Lang, then I run it at 270-280 & it will cook either one at about 1 hour per pound, so I get up early & it will be done for dinner. I usually also make breakfast & lunch in a CI pan on the top of the fire box, while consuming a few beers. In my opinion the Lang is worth every penny I spent on it! You just can't beat the flavor of a wood fired smoker. Although the WSM puts out some fantastic Q!
    Al
     
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  11. Hank151

    Hank151 Newbie

    Thanks for the advice Al. Gonna look into the WSM as well
     
  12. jcam222

    jcam222 Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    I have did a lot of research and shopping over the last few months in preparation to get a smoker other than the MES40 that has served me well into the addiction :) I really was down to a Lang 48 or several brands of charcoal heated cabinet smokers. For me it ended up coming down to whether or not I wanted to have to tend the fire. I opted for a nice charcoal cabinet smoker so that I can fill her up , load up about 15 lbs. of lump charcoal with some wood chunks and let her roll for about 12 hours or so maintenance free. I bought a used 270 Smokers large and hope to use it the first time next weekend.

    That said in all likelihood I will buy a Lang as well someday LOL
     
  13. SonnyE

    SonnyE Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Can't speak to either.
    But as to reviews... please consider them with a grain of salt.
    I suggest a grain of rock salt... :D

    Sometimes a shill for the competition will post fake negative reviews.
    So you need to try and sort them.
    Sometimes Velcro people post about problems that simply could be solved with some common sense.
    (They can't tie their own shoes, and common sense isn't common anymore.)
     
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  14. SonnyE

    SonnyE Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    And Pickles! Must NOT forget Al's pickles! :rolleyes:
     
  15. Scott Eisenbraun

    Scott Eisenbraun Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    If you are a set it and forget it type, a stick burner wouldn't be a great choice. Your profile doesn't show what part of the country you live in. An insulated cabinet type smoker is probably the most efficient for any of us.

    I bought my son in law a Pit Barrel smoker a couple years ago when his cheap offset smoker rusted through. I don't see a lot about them in this forum, but he turns out some of the most consistent, best tasting BBQ I've eaten. Temp runs higher than we normally use, but I can't argue with the food quality.

    If I lived in the lower third of the US, I would love to use a stick burner as my main smoker. But I got nothing but time these days.
     
  16. SonnyE

    SonnyE Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Pit Barrel Smokers

     
  17. As someone who went from a 42" Klose offset to a Primo XL, I prefer the Primo. I still have the 800 lb Klose but it has not been used since the Primo arrived. My stick burner requires fire checks about every 2 hrs, it leaks smoke like a sieve, and the temperature varies dramatically from one end to the other (could be solved if I had tuning plates), not to mention the sanding and painting. Did I mention the 30-60 minutes to clean it (more when the soot builds up) and the mess that makes. There are a lot of folks who thinking staying up all night drinking beer and tending the smoker is fun, but I can't stay up all night anymore.

    The Primo is obviously much smaller but I have a BBQ Guru and can load it up with fuel and it will hold temp perfectly as long as I need. When the food is done I open the vents wide open and it self cleans. I just have to rake the ashes. The Primo also grills better than my Klose. I am not knocking the Klose. David's team builds a very nice product, it just does not suit my needs as well as the Primo.

    I cannot comment on the Lang but if I were going to get another stick burner it would have stainless steal, gaskets and latches like many of the Pitmaker units. For me I would just as soon add a second ceramic cooker, an extra large one for big cooks. I was part of a group that sponsored the Pitmaker cooking team at the Houston Rodeo cookoff a couple of years they make nice stuff.

    Pardon the rambling but I think picking the right equipment comes down to how you like to cook, the quantity you want to cook, what you cook and inevitably how much room you have for multiple cookers (LOL). I would like to try my hand at making smoked sausage and bacon. I can probably make the Primo work but it will not be ideal for either. I guess I will have to add an upright. My wife is going to kill me!
     
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  18. Hank151

    Hank151 Newbie

    Thanks DaFish for the advice I went with the pitmaker safe ordered it few weeks ago can’t wait to get it lol. I decided against the stick burner i can’t be staying up all night tending a fire that’s not my style. I’m more of a set it and forget it type.
     
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  19. SonnyE

    SonnyE Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    "There are a lot of folks who thinking staying up all night drinking beer and tending the smoker is fun, but I can't stay up all night anymore."


    I can do one, or the tother.
    But anytime there is heat involved, well, usually the beer wins out.
    It's a Safety concern. ;):rolleyes:

    And well, darn it, it takes too many nights to recover from an all nighter.
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2018
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  20. Scott Eisenbraun

    Scott Eisenbraun Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Just spent some time reviewing the Pitmaker Safe on YouTube. I think you made a solid choice. Built like a tank, commercial latches, and insulated. Have fun with it. Well done!