MB's official statement on wet or dry chips.

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If you ask anyone with a MES they will tell you that soaking the chips is a big waste of time.

All it does is create steam & moisture in the smoker.

Then they dry out & start to smoke.

Al
 
 
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they own smithfield meats so they gonna know all our secrets!!
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If you ask anyone with a MES they will tell you that soaking the chips is a big waste of time.

All it does is create steam & moisture in the smoker.

Then they dry out & start to smoke.

Al

Hey AL, my first use of MB30 was dry chips and it seemed the temp spiked then dropped so I assumed chips were flaming then smoldering, the second time I soaked chips and opened damper all the way. Which I thought stopped the spike. I haven't been able to just sit and watch it so I won't swear by it. I'm the type how has to prove it, I got a lot to learn with this thing that is supposes to be so simple but has different variables for sure. I want to run that test again but watch carefully the first hour. I sincerely appreciate input from pros but I always prove it out.
 
 
If you ask anyone with a MES they will tell you that soaking the chips is a big waste of time.

All it does is create steam & moisture in the smoker.

Then they dry out & start to smoke.

Al
Exactamundo!!

How many Smokes do the guys who wrote the book have under their belts?

They also tell you to close the top vent to hold stale smoke in the Smoker---Bet their stuff tastes Great---Creosote & all.

Bear
 
Exactamundo!!

How many Smokes do the guys who wrote the book have under their belts?

They also tell you to close the top vent to hold stale smoke in the Smoker---Bet their stuff tastes Great---Creosote & all.

Bear

The consensus then is vent wide open, dry chips for everything from sausage to whole turkey? I just assumed (wrongly) that the electric was to operate like the bullit cooker they also sell. Which uses a small amount of chips, no top vent, the smoke stays in, I've had similar bullits and they smoked exceptionally well with little amount of chips due to no vent.
 
 
Exactamundo!!

How many Smokes do the guys who wrote the book have under their belts?

They also tell you to close the top vent to hold stale smoke in the Smoker---Bet their stuff tastes Great---Creosote & all.

Bear
All MES answers come out of  Kwick-E-Mart. No thank you berry berry much.

 
 
Exactamundo!!

How many Smokes do the guys who wrote the book have under their belts?

They also tell you to close the top vent to hold stale smoke in the Smoker---Bet their stuff tastes Great---Creosote & all.

Bear
The consensus then is vent wide open, dry chips for everything from sausage to whole turkey? I just assumed (wrongly) that the electric was to operate like the bullit cooker they also sell. Which uses a small amount of chips, no top vent, the smoke stays in, I've had similar bullits and they smoked exceptionally well with little amount of chips due to no vent.
Below is how myself and most others smoke meat...  BUT.... you are free to do it your way....

 
Actually, most of the MES owners here dumped using chips for one of the A-MAZE-N products after their first PITA run of adding chips every 30 minutes during a 6 to 12 hour smoke session. Adding chips is NOT what I call a set and forget smoker...JJ
 
Actually, most of the MES owners here dumped using chips for one of the A-MAZE-N products after their first PITA run of adding chips every 30 minutes during a 6 to 12 hour smoke session. Adding chips is NOT what I call a set and forget smoker...JJ

I bought the large square one but now wish it was one of the tube, I'll probably get a tube in a week or two after Xmas budget recovers!
 
Actually, most of the MES owners here dumped using chips for one of the A-MAZE-N products after their first PITA run of adding chips every 30 minutes during a 6 to 12 hour smoke session. Adding chips is NOT what I call a set and forget smoker...JJ
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I don't have my old MES anymore (sold it to The Mule about 3 years back), but back then, the same day I ordered my MES40, I also ordered an AMNPS from Todd.  During the years I cooked on that rig, I never once had chips in the factory chip tray...the AMNPS was just such a convenient and perfect smoke generator for the MES.

Red
 
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The consensus then is vent wide open, dry chips for everything from sausage to whole turkey? I just assumed (wrongly) that the electric was to operate like the bullit cooker they also sell. Which uses a small amount of chips, no top vent, the smoke stays in, I've had similar bullits and they smoked exceptionally well with little amount of chips due to no vent.
Keep on experimenting---That's a good way to learn.

All we do is give you our experiences to help you save some time & headaches (And bad food).

After 7 years of using nothing but MES units, I can't help you with any other kind of smoker, but Electric, and mainly MES.

However anything I tell you didn't come from any book, especially one written by someone who probably never used an MES.

Like JJ said, I started 7 years ago, fighting with the Chips & chunks, and all I got was off and on smoke, and sometimes too much smoke. Then I tried a Smoke Generator for $100, and found it to be a POJ.

Then Todd Johnson invented the AMNS, and I helped him test them. They are Great, but they weren't good for temps much over 200°, so he invented the AMNPS, good for Low & High Heat.

So that's what I have Happily used for more than 6 years now. They work Awesome!!  Wouldn't want to smoke without one.

Bear
 
I bought the large square one but now wish it was one of the tube, I'll probably get a tube in a week or two after Xmas budget recovers!
Depends on where you live. If you live at a high altitude, you could be better off with a Tube.

However my AMNS & AMNPS  (Square Maze) work Awesome in all of my MES units, but I only live a few hundred feet above sea level.

BTW: You should type where you live in your Profile, so we can include that with our figuring, when we help you on things like this.

Bear
 
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Actually, most of the MES owners here dumped using chips for one of the A-MAZE-N products after their first PITA run of adding chips every 30 minutes during a 6 to 12 hour smoke session. Adding chips is NOT what I call a set and forget smoker...JJ

OK now, for today, I don't have a mailbox setup yet, it looks like the best procedure, for now, what's best way to set up my amazn, vent wide open for sure, placed where inside where it won't get dripped on? And, door cracked or not? I did find out I need to pile up pellets higher going around corners.
 
OK now, for today, I don't have a mailbox setup yet, it looks like the best procedure, for now, what's best way to set up my amazn, vent wide open for sure, placed where inside where it won't get dripped on? And, door cracked or not? I did find out I need to pile up pellets higher going around corners.
We still haven't established which MES model you have:

If it's a Gen #1, best place is on the bottom support rods to left of Chip burner.

If it's the Gen #2.5, on the bottom rack, right side, with the dumper pulled out a couple inches & turned 180°.

If it's a Gen #2, Remove the little water pan from the slanted Drip plate, and straddle the hole with the AMNPS, so air can rise through that hole through the AMNPS.

Vent Full Open, protect AMNPS from Drips. Never crack door open.

Bear
 
I have been experimenting with the AMZN 6 tube in my MES 30. I've found it works great on the lowest rack on the left,vent wide open. I leave the chip loader half out. I love Todd's products. It's like having a new smoker.
 
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We still haven't established which MES model you have:

If it's a Gen #1, best place is on the bottom support rods to left of Chip burner.

If it's the Gen #2.5, on the bottom rack, right side, with the dumper pulled out a couple inches & turned 180°.

If it's a Gen #2, Remove the little water pan from the slanted Drip plate, and straddle the hole with the AMNPS, so air can rise through that hole through the AMNPS.

Vent Full Open, protect AMNPS from Drips. Never crack door open.

Bear
Model 20078715, what gen is this?
 
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