DISAPPOINTED

[gary s]

• Disappointed

After overhearing part of a conversation between my wife and a neighbor about PETA, I got all fired up and thought This is an organization for me. After all I love animals.

So, I emailed PETA stating that “I would love to become a member, when I was younger I was an avid Hunter and Fisherman. I had killed lots of deer, hundreds of squirrels, ducks, quail and doves along with various other small game,

and no telling how many pounds of fish I have caught. I grill and smoke meat regularly, Brisket, Ribs and Pork Butt are some of my favorites along with chicken and sausage.

About thirty minutes later I got a response back from PETA

I was excited, but as I read the email it turned to Disappointment. It Read:

Dear Sir; are you “some kind of nut” What are you thinking,

we do not condone hunting or taking lives of helpless animals and fish. You are not welcome in our organization and for future reference should do a little research before opting to join an organization you clearly no nothing about.

AND ----- PETA DOES NO STAND FOR

PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS


Thank you

 

[tropics]

Thanks for the chuckle
Richie

 

[BandCollector]

The slogan in my signature is my motto and I have been using it since signatures have been permitted on the net.

Too bad the PETA folks don't understand that controlled hunting and fishing is a necessity in order to maintain healthy herds and schools.

Blindness is an awful thing!

John

 

[cmayna]

now THAT's funny. With the amount of fish I eat, guess I also am not welcomed.

 

[tallbm]

Of those, PETA euthanized 2,455, or 81 percent. In some prior years, that rate has risen above 90 percent. Statewide, 210,599 animals wound up in Virginia animal shelters last year, according statistics compiled by the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.Mar 12, 2015
At PETA's shelter, most animals are put down. PETA calls them mercy ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...petas...peta.../e84e9af2-c8fa-11e4-bea5-b893e7ac3f...

Well gary I understand your enthusiasm to support taking care of animals.
I posted the quoted information above not as some kind of bashing or political argument for/against PETA. It just seems that like many organizations out there, PETA has some conflicting views with itself, the world, and reality.

I think if you really want to join a group condoning animal or wildlife support you may want to look into some of the wildlife conservation groups out there.
At the very least you can be a animal, wildlife, and conservation support group of 1 and do your part by controlling what gary does. This is what I do because it's the only way I know my contribution is actually going towards the right cause :)

BTW I like to do my part with wildlife conservation through ethical hunting practices while also being a member of the unofficial PETA group (People Eating Tasty Animals) hahahaha.

 

[forkin pork]

Dammmmm!

I like to do my part with wildlife conservation through ethical hunting practices

I'm with ya on that one!

 

[tallbm]

Dammmmm!


I'm with ya on that one!

Yeah a little can go a long way there if everyone hunts/fishes ethically.

A few things I've done over the years is to move up to a set of 20 power fixed Binoculars so about 95% of the time (i'm guessing here) I can make out whether a deer has little brow tines or small points so I don't shoot an illegal buck. If I can't get a good look or it's questionable I pass.

Additionally I have almost completely moved to all copper or non-lead hunting bullets even though my state doesn't require it.

1. I'm trying not to introduce more lead into the food chain (including myself and people who eat my hunted meat) than I need to
2. I love the fact that they retain almost 100% of their weight the entire time (no splitting or breaking up)
3. The expansion is ridiculously large so the bullet does more to help with a clean kill
4. With such large expansion the all copper bullets have no issue penetrating deeper so if I take longer distance shots or shoot a larger animal I can get pass through for blood trail tracking. Shooting and loosing game is something that really bothers me and I am working really hard to avoid (have lost 2 in my lifetime :( )

Finally, I have just upgraded to much higher power scopes on two of my lower powered hunting rifles to help with bullet placement since this is the most important kill factor. Aim small, miss small, is the saying!

I guess this is all how I am trying to do my part to be as ethical as I can and ensure that when I pull the trigger the animal hits the ground where I can find it and everyone eats with zero concern of any kind :)

 

[forkin pork]

Given U a big hug, thanks for doing your, I try very hard myself to be an ethical hunter.
Thanks for the tip on all copper, never gave it much thought, but I'm a changed man.
Good luck, happy safe hunting in 2018.

 

[SmokinAl]

I don't understand their response. They need money to stay in business, why should they care who it comes from. Gary, your trying your best to be an ethical hunter & fisherman, and reached out to them.
We are members of Green Peace, who have been accused of being terrorists. We also support various conservation groups. As a matter of fact our backyard is a certified wildlife refuge. we even have a sign to post out there on a tree, that says. " Certified Wildlife Habitat". And goes on to say all the reasons it is considered so. We got it from the National Wildlife Federation and we had to meet several standards to be certified.
Al

 

[noboundaries]

I don't hunt or fish, but I used to, and strongly support those who do. The politics around guns in California pretty much matches my acronym for PETA: People Exercising Their Arrogance.

 

[tallbm]

Given U a big hug, thanks for doing your, I try very hard myself to be an ethical hunter.
Thanks for the tip on all copper, never gave it much thought, but I'm a changed man.
Good luck, happy safe hunting in 2018.

I'm glad the info has helped!

The major downside is the cost of copper bullets but I'm fortunate enough that I can afford it (I reload and buy blemished and 2nds/overruns to save money on copper bullets). Also the accuracy has been fantastic with the Barnes bullets and I think I will have the same accuracy as I venture more into loading Hornady GMX.

Also know that with copper bullets you get a longer projectile than jacked lead, so be sure you have a low enough rifle barrel twist rate to ensure the longer copper projectile is stable for the distances you shoot. Lower twist rate numbers means the bullet actually twists faster to be more stable. :)

 

[driedstick]

Good chuckle,,, thanks Gary,,,

 

[HalfSmoked]

Ha learned something here heck PETA is my wife's nickname for me Pain in the a__ yup I know your saying PETA but senior moment made me think the other way. Agree with hunting ethics you all have stated.

Warren

 

[Bearcarver]

LOL---Good one, Gary!!

I'm one of the guys who knew it was a Joke.

Bear

 

[myownidaho]

Reminds me of a cartoon in Field and Stream from my youth. A wealthy large woman with jewelry and big hair was sitting at the dining table and dabbing the corner of her mouth while saying “hunting is so cruel, please pass the roast beef”.

 

[myownidaho]

I'm one of the guys who knew it was a Joke.

Bear

No way. I’m calling shenanigans.

 

[SmokyMose]

Humans have incisors for a reason, and it’s not for chewing Broccoli and Lettuce....

 

[SonnyE]

A long time ago on a ship far out to sea...
We were on a Panama Canal Cruise. There was a Breast Cancer 5K walk around the ship. (The walk from hell. :eek:)
One guy was wearing his PETA T-shirt.
It said under the 3-4" PETA letters in parentheses (people eating tasty animals).
Cracked me up! :D

 

[bluewhisper]

If you want a chuckle, look up Sea Kittens. When I first heard of that I thought it was a joke but it's real.

 

[pops6927]

I was born and brought up in a meat store. We cut up what others killed, be it slaughterhouses or wild game. I have seen a huge progression from field dressing to processing plants. But, the one thing that has never changed is the animal.

Now, however, that too is changing, and is PETA-approved. It is called Beyond Meat (www.beyondmeat.com). Like all things, the only constant is change. Is it a good thing? Well, in the short-term, no. In the long-term, yes. Just like 45 years ago the term "Boxed Beef" was not known, now it is common. Processing is getting totally industrialized to the point of all central cutting, no more individual store processing (a/c Walmart). But, this goes a step further. Eliminate the animal as the processing plant from vegetables to meats; create meat in a lab, not a farm or nature. Before you know it you will have chemistry-correct beef, pork, lamb, veal, chicken, duck, goose, etc., with no bones, far less water required (like 80% less), waste that can be immediately spread on crops to grow more vegetables. It will be a boon for arid and semi-dry areas, providing food for hungry nations, and give sustenance for all humans.

Sounds like "Soylent Green"? Yes, without the sinister undertones. It will be a necessary step in the evolution as we wither our resources and need to compensate for it. Animals will no longer be grown to eat or sustain the average populations; they will be a niche market for the wealthy; the rest of us will be eating prime, tasty fake meat. Skinless, boneless, pre-formed into chops, steaks, ground beef, boneless chicken and so on.

Beyond Meat already produces chicken strips, ground meats, burgers, and now sausages (Sprouts has them, plus several other stores). It is a reality, and other companies are getting in the game, too. (just Google 'fake meat').