Cold Smoked Salmon

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Oleg

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Oct 1, 2018
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Hi all, I've been cold smoking salmon for about a year but I thought I'd put my method here for your critique. If I am not doing it right I'd rather know than keep playing a Russian roulette.

- Fresh salmon is covered in salt and sugar. for 24 hrs. for farmed or 12 hrs. for wild in the refrigerator.
- Salmon is washed and then put in cold water for 40 min to 1hr. in the refrigerator.
- Dry with paper towel and let dry for 1-3hrs.
- Smoke at 40-50F for 4hrs.
- Wrap in foil and keep in the refrigerator for 24hrs. to allow salt more evenly distribute.
- Slice against the grain about 1/8-1/4" thick.

Looks spectacular (attached picture does not do justice) and tastes better than store bought.
 

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Yes I agree with the above. I always use cure #1 for lox!
If anything it's for my own piece of mind.
I also freeze the lox after I slice & vac pack it, for 7 days below -3 degrees F.
This will kill any parasites in the fish.
Just another safety measure.
I may go overboard, but I'd rather be safe than sorry!
Al
 
I have a Salmon soaking right now that I cured for 3 days.

Very similar recipes, I found that you cannot go too cold for salmon smoking. This is why winter is my cold smoked salmon time to allow 50F smoking temp. my smoke generator only increases the smoker temperature by about 7-10 degrees. I am going to start using CJP just in case.
 
Just went back and looked at Al's post on that. It looks excellent, will have to watch for a sale. Prices were ridiculous last time I looked.
 
Yes I agree with the above. I always use cure #1 for lox!
If anything it's for my own piece of mind.
I also freeze the lox after I slice & vac pack it, for 7 days below -3 degrees F.
This will kill any parasites in the fish.
Just another safety measure.
I may go overboard, but I'd rather be safe than sorry!
Al

I'd rather be safe than glue to a toilet...:eek:
LOL!
Very good point Al!
 
I don't understand this CJP thing... It is not accepted by the FDA / USDA as a prevention for botulism... You are kidding yourself...
 
What is CJP?

CJP is Celery Juice Powder
Pros: natural product - no synthetic ingredients. Contains nitrates to cure meats.
Cons: as a naturally occurring product the quantity of nitrates varies from plant to plant. As a result you might be using too much or not enough to be effective.
 
I don't understand this CJP thing... It is not accepted by the FDA / USDA as a prevention for botulism... You are kidding yourself...

Hi Dave, you might have read my previous posts that my wife would not eat any food that has synthetic ingredients. This includes artificial flavors, colors, preservatives, etc. It's her lifestyle choice that I respect. Cure#1 is not singled out. I have to admit thought that if I smoke something for the holidays and take to our friends or relatives I will probably use cure#1 to ensure food safety.
 
OK, Thanks guys.

I'll stick with my Better Living through Chemistry. LOL!

But in all honesty, I never used anything before coming to SMF.com.
Just Salt and Pepper.
But I also used to over smoke everything. o_O

(The only thing that ever affected my health was my Meat and Tators affliction. Too much cholesterol plugged up my oil pump.)
 
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Great information by NEPAS:

CURES - Cures are used in sausage products for color and flavor development as well as retarding the development of bacteria in the low temperature environment of smoked meats.

Salt and sugar both cure meat by osmosis. In addition to drawing the water from the food, they dehydrate and kill the bacteria that make food spoil. In general, though, use of the word "cure" refers to processing the meat with either sodium nitrite or sodium nitrate.

The primary and most important reason to use cures is to prevent BOTULISM POISONING (Food poisoning). It is very important that any kind of meat or sausage that will be cooked and smoked at low temperature be cured. To trigger botulism poisoning, the requirements are quite simple - lack of oxygen, the presence of moisture, and temperatures in range of 40-140° F. When smoking meats, the heat and smoke eliminates the oxygen. The meats have moisture and are traditionally smoked and cooked in the low ranges of 90 to 185° F. As you can see, these are ideal conditions for food poisoning if you don't use cures. There are two types of commercially used cures.

Prague Powder #1

Also called Insta-Cure and Modern Cure. Cures are used to prevent meats from spoiling when being cooked or smoked at low temperatures (under 200 degrees F). This cure is 1 part sodium nitrite (6.25%) and 16 parts salt (93.75%) and are combined and crystallized to assure even distribution. As the meat temperate rises during processing, the sodium nitrite changes to nitric oxide and starts to ‘gas out’ at about 130 degrees F. After the smoking /cooking process is complete only about 10-20% of the original nitrite remains. As the product is stored and later reheated for consumption, the decline of nitrite continues. 4 ounces of Prague powder #1 is required to cure 100 lbs of meat. A more typical measurement for home use is 1 level tsp per 5 lbs of meat. Mix with cold water, then mix into meat like you would mix seasonings into meat.

Prague Powder #2

Used to dry-cure products. Prague powder #2 is a mixture of 1 part sodium nitrite, .64 parts sodium nitrate and 16 parts salt. (1 oz. of sodium nitrite with .64 oz. of sodium nitrate to each lb. of salt.) It is primarily used in dry-curing Use with products that do not require cooking, smoking, or refrigeration. This cure, which is sodium nitrate, acts like a time release, slowly breaking down into sodium nitrite, then into nitric oxide. This allows you to dry cure products that take much longer to cure. A cure with sodium nitrite would dissipate too quickly. Use 1 oz. of cure for 25 lbs. of meat or 1 level teaspoon of cure for 5 lbs. of meat when mixing with meat. When using a cure in a brine solution, follow a recipe.
 
The primary and most important reason to use cures is to prevent BOTULISM POISONING (Food poisoning)

in the United States, the concentration of nitrates and nitrites is generally limited to 200 ppm or lower. While the meat industry considers them irreplaceable because of their low cost and efficacy at maintaining color, botulism is an extremely rare disease (less than 1000 cases reported worldwide per year), and almost always associated with home preparations of food storing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curing_(food_preservation)#cite_note-“Botulism”-31

The risk of botulism is extremely small. I also smoke meat/fish the same day I buy it.
 
Many here cold smoke salmon without cure (myself included). There are commecial outfits that smoke salmon without cure. Having said that...I am not getting in another argument about botulism.

Dave is right. Celery juice is useless in an environment where the temps are low and curing time is short. You need certain temps to promote bacteria that converts nitrate to nitrite. And time. Nitrite is the agent that cures the meat, not the nitrate.
 
Hi Dave, you might have read my previous posts that my wife would not eat any food that has synthetic ingredients. This includes artificial flavors, colors, preservatives, etc. It's her lifestyle choice that I respect. Cure#1 is not singled out. I have to admit thought that if I smoke something for the holidays and take to our friends or relatives I will probably use cure#1 to ensure food safety.

That's tough, Oleg. Makes rather hard demands upon you.

I have a SIL who was highly skeptical about me using Prague Powder in my Jerky recipe, until I told him to look it up.
He did, and then he shut up.
What doesn't cook out and neutralize in process, gets neutralized by stomach acids.

I would also add that living healthy, or living a less healthy lifestyle, IMHO is a wash.
I have never talked to anybody who got out of life alive. o_O
But I also believe that people who worry the most, live the least.
That is why I choose to live until I die, and enjoy all my senses, especially my sense of taste.

If you want to use CJP (Celery Juice Powder), what about making your own? Use a juicer, then dehydrate your own to make the powder? ;)

I made my own Onion powder. And it is FAR superior to "store bought". ;)
 
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