Bottom Round Roast

Discussion in 'Beef' started by turick, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. turick

    turick Meat Mopper

    Strolling down the grocery store isle yesterday, I saw something that startled me.  Recently I haven't been able to find any cut of beef under $7 a pound.  That's when I saw the sale on bottom round for $3.99 a pound.  Not really knowing much of anything about this cut of meat, I grabbed it.


    I haven't done much searching on how to smoke it, but I'm still a newbie and thought I would just attempt to propose an idea of what I should do with it and see if I can get feedback from the community to see if I'm on the right track.

    So my first thought is to just keep it simple -- cover it in mustard and SPOG, maybe a little more heavy on the salt and pepper and let it sit in the fridge overnight. 

    I like my beef pretty rare, so I was thinking about setting the cooker temp to 225 and letting it smoke until I hit an IT of 145.  Probably put a tin on a rack below the beef to catch the drippings.  And that's it! 

    Any comments / suggestions are welcome!
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2014
  2. mdboatbum

    mdboatbum Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Sounds good to me. Bottom round isn't the most tender cut, so you'll want to slice it thin. Something I discovered quite by accident once was that if you douse it with Worcestershire sauce and whatever seasonings you want, seal it up in a ziplock and put it in the fridge for 10 days it gets quite tender. We were called out of town the day after I put it in to marinate and when we got back and I remembered it was in there, it was delicious.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2014
  3. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Sounds like a Great idea, but like MBB said, you might want to slice it pretty thin.

    Here's another thing you can do with Bottom Round. Although in this case I mixed it with some Canadian Bacon:

    Canadian Bacon and Dried Beef

    Bear
     
  4. worktogthr

    worktogthr Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    I have done a bottom round on my weber kettle. Used basic indirect setup with some smoke. The temps were on the high side, maybe 375ish. I too like it rare and I cooked it to 120 in order for it to be like rare roast beef. If you cook to 145, a hunk of meat like that will keep cooking on the counter and probably get overcooked. Here's a post that shows the doneness and what I did with the meat. Hope this helps!

    http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/160262/baltimore-pit-beef-sandwiches
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2014
  5. turick

    turick Meat Mopper

    Oh that looks amazing!  I really want to get into curing, but I don't currently have any of the proper supplies.  Maybe you can help me come up with a good first project :)  Do you cure your bacon when you make it?  I would really like to make some smoked pepper bacon...
    Oh wow, so I'll only take it to 120 then.  Definitely don't want to end up with brown meat.  REALLY think a slicer is in my near future...
     
  6. worktogthr

    worktogthr Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    125 won't hurt either! Just try to slice it as thinly as you can.
     
  7. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Sure, PM me about it any time!!!

    I have a bunch of cured things in my "Step by Step" Index (at the bottom of all my posts), but meanwhile here is the ones that I cured:

    Cured & Smoked Products:
     
  8. turick

    turick Meat Mopper

    Oh I want to make some bacon so badly...  Does BBB taste similar to belly bacon?  Do you prefer one over the other?  Also, does pork belly compare in price to shoulders/butts?

    Also, for the beef, since people say this tends to be tougher, should I try cooking it very slow... like 180-200?  Could that help at all?
     
  9. bluewhisper

    bluewhisper Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    In cleaning the basement recently, I found a 1996 grocery advertising flyer - "beef round steak" @ $1.49/lb
     
  10. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Shoulders/Butts are generally cheaper than Bellies, and easier to find by most people.

    IMHO, I would say BBB is more tasty than Belly Bacon, and more lean, so I would prefer BBB with a couple eggs.

    However I very much prefer Belly Bacon over BBB in a BLT, because it's easier to "Bite Through" without pulling the sandwich apart.

    I'll let others help you with "How to get Bottom Round tender", as I have only ever used it for Dried Beef (sliced very thin).

    Bear
     
  11. turick

    turick Meat Mopper

    Wow... that surprised me... I would have thought nothing would beat belly bacon.  I might just have to try it soon!

    Anyway, back on topic, I'm all SPOG'd up and ready for tomorrow!  Still not sure where I'll set the temp, I'm guessing I'll shoot for 200 degrees.

     
  12. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Yeah---200* should be fine, since it's only about 3 pounds.

    Pull it where you want it. Figure about 4* carry-over at a smoking temp of only 200*.

    So pull it around 136* IT if you want about 140* IT after resting.

    Bear
     
  13. turick

    turick Meat Mopper

    Off to the races! Decided to throw some extra brats we had lying around just for fun.

     
  14. turick

    turick Meat Mopper

    So for starters, I don't know if I'll ever grill another brat. I cut the tip off of one to check for doneness, and it wasn't, so I left them in and stuck the tip I cut offback in there. A bit later when they were done, I think that tip was my favorite piece since it took on the most smoke. I think next time I might slice up a few about half way through and throw them in a foil pan.

    Anyway, I ended up leaving the roast in for about 5 hours at 200. The IT got up to 127. Initial taste test was great, although definitely very tough. I let it rest for a couple of hours, then stuck it in the fridge. This morning I stuck it in the freezer for a little over an hour and started slicing.


    It was very hard to cut them uniformly thin and I don't think I will be attempting this again without a proper slicer! And next time I think I will marinate for a few days to help with the toughness. Thanks for all the help guys!
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2014
  15. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Yup----That's why I couldn't help you with toughness. I know some guys say they got their bottom round tender, but I don't know how they did it, and I don't know what their idea of "Tender" is, and I never tried it myself. When I see "bottom round" or "Eye Round", my one track mind thinks "Dried Beef".

    If you wait until you get an automatic slicer. Then freeze it for 4 hour just before slicing, and slice it across the grain, you'll have some awesome eating Beef, whether it be hot with brown gravy, or as a cold lunch meat Beef Sammy.

    Bear
     
  16. worktogthr

    worktogthr Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Looks really good! I agree with Bear in that it is never going to get super tender...but if you keep it rare it's good with some gravy and I you can manage o slice it super thin I am sure it would be good for sandwiches.
     
  17. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Yup----Mrs Bear's favorite way is to heat up a little good Beef Au Jus, then drop some thin Beef slices in for a few seconds & right out & into a roll.  MMMMMmmmmmm

    That Woman sure has good taste!!!

    Bear
     
  18. turick

    turick Meat Mopper

    Here's another observation I've made about freshly smoked meat vs smoked meat out of the fridge....  when the meat comes out of the smoker, even a simple SPOG rub tastes very spicy, almost like there is cayenne pepper on it.  If there really is cayenne or some other spicy agent in the rub, it will be (seemingly) orders of magnitude spicier.  But the next day, if the heat isn't all the way gone, it's 1/10th of what it was straight out of the smoker.

    Sorry, I'm either crazy or this is common knowledge that I'm just figuring out as a newbie :)
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2014
  19. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    You're not crazy!!

    Also heating some things up will sometimes wake up the spices. I notice that when I heat up slices of my "Bear Loaf"----Brings the Heat back.

    Bear
     
  20. tjdcorona

    tjdcorona Meat Mopper

    I have one going in the smoker today.

    Im reading all the posts on toughness, and though I expect it to be tough, I don't want it to be like leather!

    So Im going to try - heat to IT of 130 - wrap in foil and heat to IT of 165 ( I do Brisket to 203 - maybe Ill be tempted?)

    Gonna do 215 for cooking temp - starting at 10:30 -----My goal is tender
     

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