Safe glove use.......

[diggingdogfarm]

Are you contaminating your food safety gloves with dirty fingertips?

Why gloves are not the solution to the fingertip washing problem.
http://www.hi-tm.com/Documents2001/Glove-problems.html

Cross-contamination of gloves when being put on.
http://www.hi-tm.com/Documents2004/gloglove-2.pdf

Double hand washing with a fingernail brush.
http://www.hi-tm.com/Documents/Handflow.html

~Martin

 

[kathrynn]

Great info Martin...from my Nursing years in Health Care...proper hand washing and usages is vital for making sure no one gets sick.

 

[chef jimmyj]

Although gloves are a requirement as noted, many old school Chefs hate them for reasons stated. You can't feel the sticky residue of meat juices and therefore many employees move from job to job without changing gloves. More than once I verbally beat up a Dishwasher or Bus Person for handling dirty dishes with gloved hands the scooping Ice into a glass for a drink contaminating the scoop handle and in some cases the ice itself. As a teen I scooped Ice Cream for Friendly's my hands would get very sticky so I would automatically wash between customers. Watch the kids with gloved hands some time, they scoop endlessly with the same gloves on...JJ

 

[diggingdogfarm]

I almost never eat-out because I can't help setting there and noting all the food safety errors.....it's happened at EVERY place I've ever eaten at, no matter how fancy, in fact some of the fancier places are the worst.
Yes, I'm a paranoid germaphobe with OCD. LOL


~Martin

 

[pops6927]

About the worst I've found is a cigarette butt in a foil-wrapped potato at Ponderosa Steak House, sent it back for another one.  That I know about.  I'm sure plenty I don't know about.  Being a meatcutter, it was in the late 70's that we had to start sanitizing cutting boards between species; otherwise we'd process rewraps and bring out a chuck and cut some steaks, split a few chickens and slice some chops all on the same boards and saw.  Didn't think anything of it, just scraped the juice off and start another thing. Nothing wrong with dirt as long as it's good clean dirt...

 

[diggingdogfarm]

I could give hundreds of examples....

Last time we were at a local pizza parlor, the server set a pizza down at the wrong table, in front of a bunch of coughing and sneezing college kids, then without thought took it to where it belongs. The pizza should have been trashed.

Same server was "eagle-clawing" beverages.

Same server took cash and didn't wash up afterward.

Same server bused a table and didn't wash up before serving others.


I could go on and on for days...LOL


~Martin

 

[diggingdogfarm]

Oh, probably the worst I've seen was a server cleaning the bathrooms and also serving people.
I aggressively confronted the manager over the deal and he couldn't see a problem with it, to which I responded, if he sees no problem, he's not someone who should be managing a restaurant.
What happened was wrong on so many levels.
Apparently, ownership agreed, the manager was fired.


~Martin

 

[kathrynn]

Martin...understand!  If we all think about all the germs and poor safety issues that are out there....none of us would leave the house!  But..we have to!

Kat

 

[jp61]

Thanks for the heads-up Martin!

Not quite the same, but back in my teenage years I worked at a fancy seafood place as a kitchen prep. We had free lunches (basic stuff), one day one of the cooks was going to hook me up with a nice New York strip stake. I was standing right next to him when he pulled out the stake-drawer only to  reveal the cockroaches having a feast. I said.... no thanks, I'll have a cheeseburger instead. I use to use a can of spray stainless-steel cleaner as a flame thrower to fry them off of the walls. 

 

[goingcamping]

Yes, I'm a paranoid germaphobe with OCD. LOL


~Martin

Umm hello, it CDO! (The proper order!)

 

[jp61]

I could give hundreds of examples....

Last time we were at a local pizza parlor, the server set a pizza down at the wrong table, in front of a bunch of coughing and sneezing college kids, then without thought took it to where it belongs. The pizza should have been trashed.

Same server was "eagle-clawing" beverages.

Same server took cash and didn't wash up afterward.

Same server bused a table and didn't wash up before serving others.


I could go on and on for days...LOL


~Martin

Probably because of impatient customers, greedy owners and he/she just trying to survive.

 

[diggingdogfarm]

She wasn't properly trained, or if she was, she was ignoring the rules.
My mother would have freaked-out if that girl operated like that one of her restaurants.


~Martin

 

[s2k9k]

I could give hundreds of examples....

Last time we were at a local pizza parlor, the server set a pizza down at the wrong table, in front of a bunch of coughing and sneezing college kids, then without thought took it to where it belongs. The pizza should have been trashed.

Same server was "eagle-clawing" beverages.

Same server took cash and didn't wash up afterward.

Same server bused a table and didn't wash up before serving others.


I could go on and on for days...LOL


~Martin

Man I hate the claw!!!

 

[diggingdogfarm]

Makes you wonder what folks are doing when nobody is looking! YIKES!!!!! LOL



~Martin

 

[jp61]

Lack of proper training is a problem at many places, but sometimes in a madhouse atmosphere, unfortunately part of training goes out the window. Obviously your mother cared for many reasons. The owner of the place I spoke of above spent 90% of his time at the bar....probably keeping one ear on the cash register. 

 

[diggingdogfarm]

As a teen I scooped Ice Cream for Friendly's my hands would get very sticky so I would automatically wash between customers. Watch the kids with gloved hands some time, they scoop endlessly with the same gloves on...JJ

Or at the local Italian sub shop here, they'll use gloves while making the sub....okay....but then they'll take the gloves off to run the register, handle the nasty money and touch the dirty register keys and then put the gloves back on with their nasty hands!!!! YUCK!!!! They do the same thing repeatedly. No thanks!!! I'll stay home! LOL

~Martin

 

[jp61]

 You guys must not be aware of how much gloves cost these days..... 

<------ manager lol.

 

[diggingdogfarm]

The sub shop problem is another case of poor management, training and discipline.......an easy solution would be for the owner to run the register (as he does sometimes, but rarely) instead of aimlessly walking around in a daze like a dork.
Nitrile gloves and the like are expensive, but basic plastic gloves are very cheap in case quantities.
Either a place is highly committed to food safety, quality and customer satisfaction (some customers are watching very closely) or it's not, and if it's not, it's not a place that I want to frequent.

~Martin

 

[jp61]

Speaking of the unseen...... I didn't get the whole story, but the other day I heard there's bacteria issues going on mainly in hospitals and on the East coast. Supposedly strongest antibiotics have no effect.  Hear anything about this? It sounded pretty serious!

sorry....hope you don't mind me asking. didn't want to start a new thread.

 

[diggingdogfarm]

I read the article.
Very scary.
Germs that are resistant to all antibiotics, even antibiotics of last resort.
Resistance is increasing all the time, and it's also being transferred to other bacteria.


~Martin