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Thanks Dave! It's stored in a cool dark place, and it is clearly marked.
No problem.... The dye faded.... It is a fairly stable compound.... at least until 135 ish deg. F..... Then it starts to break down... or so it says in some curing publications.... You should put it in a container in a cool dark cupboard, and mark it clearly...
Thanks Ray! I sent them an e-mail! DOH!
Sounds like the red #3 dye just died. It hasn't reached the expiration date yet. Send an e-mail to the folks at Medley Hills Farm and ask them. I suspect it is fine but go to the source for the definitive answer.
Mayo causing food poisoning is a bit overblown as well. Homemade Mayo, raw egg and low acid, can cause food poisoning if left out. Commercial Mayo like Best, Hellman's and such uses pasteurized eggs and has a Ph of around 4. Pretty acidic and not hospitable for bacteria growth. The undressed Salad Greens at a Picnic represent far more risk than the Potato Salad that sat out in the sun for 4 hours! Of course both should be on Ice...JJ
I bet the knee jerk reaction was to blame the mayonnaise in the potato salad and not the potatoes. I had not heard this before, good info to be aware of.
I keep my cure in a tightly closed snap lid container, mostly to prevent moisture clumping as I do live in the "humidity belt" of Georgia. What is the average shelf life as I no longer have my original package and my cure is at least 2 years old. Still looks good and seams to be working in sausage though. I just did not think about keeping a note of the original expiration date from the package before I tossed it.
Personally, I wouldn't worry about an expiration date... it's salt... The nitrite converts to nitrate, probably at a rate that's so slow, you couldn't measure it over a 10 year period... Like I mentioned above... My first bag of cure #1 was probably 15 years old... If it had degraded 20%, my attempt to cure meat at 156 Ppm was reduced to 125 Ppm which is well within curing guidelines and an acceptable concentration... still very safe.......
I bet the knee jerk reaction was to blame the mayonnaise in the potato salad and not the potatoes. I had not heard this before, good info to be aware of.
I keep my cure in a tightly closed snap lid container, mostly to prevent moisture clumping as I do live in the "humidity belt" of Georgia. What is the average shelf life as I no longer have my original package and my cure is at least 2 years old. Still looks good and seams to be working in sausage though. I just did not think about keeping a note of the original expiration date from the package before I tossed it.
Thank you for the info chef JJ! I am grilling/roasting my first taters without foiling! I've grilled the tri-tip, asparagus, onions and peppers, all the while the taters have been cooking over indirect heat. They were at 170 after cooking everything else. Left them on till 190ish. I've ALWAYS wrapped baked potatoes in foil....Let's see how it turns out.
Washing potatoes well helps with bacteria removal but the rough skin on potatoes has plenty of spaces for CB Spores to hide. Yes the baking process usually kills the spores but some can survive. The hazard comes with improperly cooled and room temp stored leftover bakers wrapped in foil. Potatoes are a nice moist protein rich food for CB to grow on. The foil creates the oxygen free environment CB needs to grow. It used to be common to make leftover bakers into Potato Salad. With no further cooking to kill active bacteria and destroy the heat sensitive Toxin, People got sick. While the risk is fairly minimal and negligible with potatoes that are promptly refrigerated...It has happened see below...I NEVER Foil Wrap Baked Potatoes. Foiled potatoes Steam not bake...I wash, rub with EVOO, Salt and Pepper and roast. The seasoned crispy skin is the best part! Leftovers get diced and Fried with onions and peppers to eat with Eggs...JJ
From http://www.foodsafetysite.com/
An outbreak associated with improperly held foil wrapped baked potatoes actually occurred in a food service establishment. The outbreak involved an oven full of cooked, foil wrapped potatoes. After cooking, the oven was turned off and the potatoes were allowed to cool in the oven overnight. The foil wrapping and the warm oven made the conditions right for the growth of Clostridium botulinum and the subsequent development of botulinum toxin. The next day the potatoes were used to make potato salad. The consumers of the potato salad became sick.
You can never bee to careful when it comes to home canned food.
Some folks think I over react to this botulism "BS".... Well, if my home canned beans or fish caused someone's death, like my granddaughter's, for lack of 1 grams per pint cure #1, especially since I know about how nitrite prevents botulism in canned food............. that would be very tough to live with.....