MES ... I hate you

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by beuler, Apr 6, 2015.

  1. beuler

    beuler Smoke Blower

    I'm about done ... I've had it ! Why do we have to modify a smoker to make it work:devil:
    The AMPS dies out, my mailbox mod isn't working since the vent is on the side ( no draft ) and the chip loader is to hot it makes a nasty smelling ashtray tasting smoke ...
     
  2. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Whoooooo Slow Down Cowboy!

    Let's get to the root of the evil here!

    My guess is your MES is the New Gen2....Correct?

    Air flow thru the New Gen 2 is terrible, but let's try and improve on what you got

    Pull off the mailbox mod and start over

    Remove the water pan and place it on the floor

    Place the AMNPS 5x8 on top the hole where the water pan used to sit

    Exhaust WIDE open

    Pull the chip loader out 2" and rotate to the "Dump" position....VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

    You may need to add a 3" aluminum elbow to the exhaust for a chimney

    Start off with the very basics, and make 1 change at a time

    What pellets are you using in the AMNPS 5x8?

    Cold smoking or hot smoking?

    You can ALWAYS call me at work or on my cell

    Todd

    Work (952)736-7678

    Cell (952)412-0484
     
  3. foamheart

    foamheart Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    For a good time call:

    Todd

    Work (952)736-7678

    Cell (952)412-0484

    <Chuckles>
     
  4. beuler

    beuler Smoke Blower

    Todd, to give out your phone # is a prime example why you are the best!

    I have had an earlier post on here that you and others responded to. Not bashing your product, maybe the MES 40 a bit ...

    I used your pellets...did everything I could , even added a fan , but it keeps going out. So now im working on the Mailbox...I think this will be the ticket....I drilled a few more holes in it last night and I think I need to burn both ends, and im adding a fan , or a side chimney...I still might call you!

    Thanks, Joe
     
  5. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Maybe I should have post my Ex-Wife's #?
     
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  6. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Go back to the basics and try my method for the MES Gen 2

    The Chip Load must be in the :Dump" position, or you completely block off any intake air

    Place the AMNPS 5x8 on the top rack, and watch the turbulence thru the window!
     
  7. bmaddox

    bmaddox Master of the Pit

    As plenty of people have stated on here, properly lighting the pellets is key. I have used my AMNPS a bunch of time with no problems but this weekend I got lazy with the lighting and it kept going out. I finally took it out of the mailbox, added more pellets, and re-lit it making sure it was properly burning before putting it in the box. After that it went for 6 hours with out missing a beat.
     
  8. foamheart

    foamheart Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Are you kidding? And miss getting tro talk to Rhonda?
     
  9. I have the same problem in my MES 40". My 5x8 amps keeps going out also.Don't know how to correct. Help would be greatly appreciated. Also where do you put your temp probe in the smoker to watch smkker temp?. I have the 733 double probe. Mes is approx. 25 degress off from the probe. I try to put the probe in the middle of the smoker, is this good or should it be somelace else? Thanks; Pat
     
  10. ak1

    ak1 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Does she know smoking, and is she better looking than you?[​IMG]
     
  11. bmaddox

    bmaddox Master of the Pit

    I always place the air temp probe next to the piece that I will think will cook the fastest. For example, If I am cooking two butts and one is a pound under the other I will place the probe on the rack with the smaller one. There probably isn't any logic to my madness but it seems to work for me.
     
  12. tropics

    tropics Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I hang my probe using a magnet Gets in any level

    Look at the cork rings

     
  13. tropics

    tropics Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

  14. fwismoker

    fwismoker Master of the Pit

    You can add a charcoal smoker like a WSM or a drum smoker to your arsenal.
     
  15. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    The Old Model MES is different than the New Gen 2

    Which model do you have

    My New Gen 2 is easily 25° off

    I have to set it at 205° to maintain 225°-230° on the middle racks

    Forget about using the lowest rack, because it waaaay too hot!
     
  16. foamheart

    foamheart Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    If you have an older Gen 1 smoker with the vent on top. You can set a 2 foot piece of 3" PVC pipe on top of the vent and it will increase the air flow sizably. It was a while back but seems if you increase the length of the discharge by two feet, it will in fact change the drafting ability from the flow coefficent from a 3" to a 4" piece of pipe. But that was a while back. You might ask Dave, he's more adapt with the formulas than myself.

    Sounds silly doesn't it, but it worked.
     
  17. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    The Chimney Effect

    Ever seen a wood stove without a chimney?

    How well would a fireplace work without a chimney?

    I duct taped some #3 bean cans together to make my chimney, then someone on SMF posted the nice looking 3" aluminum elbow they got at the big box store.
     
  18. beuler

    beuler Smoke Blower

    Do you all know the hanging oven thermometers we used to use in ovens?..Thats what I use in my MES 40 ,

    hanging on the 2nd rack from the top. I have to set my smoker to 212 to get it to stay around 220.
     
  19. Not sure which gen I have. Vent is on top and controls are at the back of the smoker. Wood chip loader is on the right bottom.
     
  20. My MES 40 reads temp higher than my Mavereck ET 733. Example MES reads 275° and my ET733 reads 250°. If I set it for 250 my ET 733 will read around 215.
     

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