MES 30 popping circuit; wont start up.

Discussion in 'Electric Smokers' started by barflyngrill, Nov 24, 2011.

  1. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!  I woke up this morning ready to get the turkey breast in my MES 30 smoker. Tried to turn it on but its a no go. Every time I set the temp and time it tries to turn on but the GFCI outlet blows. I used the smoker a few weeks ago no problems. Even though Im in a brand new home, I thought the outlet might be bad but I tried 3 different outlets (all on different circuits) with the same result. Must be the smoker.  Not surprising as my Mom has one that died for no reason as well. Anyone experience this and know what to do?  Im so frustrated. Its only like 3 years old and one year it wasnt used at all. Guess Im grilling my Turkey this year..... first time... wish me luck...

    Have a great Holiday and TIA.

    Michael
     
  2. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Is it plugged directly into an outlet ?? (no extension cord)...  Is the cord damaged ??? Has it been rained on ???
     
  3. rbranstner

    rbranstner Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Like Dave said. Are you plugged directly into a outlet  or are you using a extension cord?
     
  4. boykjo

    boykjo Sausage maker Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    sound like you need a outlet with a larger amp rating... dont use a extension cord... You need to find an outlet with a 20 or 30 amp sevice... 15 which is common sometimes wont do it.......

    Joe
     
  5. hoity toit

    hoity toit Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Go ahead and use the cord on it. The smokers are only 1200 watts so its pulling about 10 amps intermittently when element is on. The gfci trip could be just what we in the trade call "nuisance tripping."

    A 14 gauge cord will be fine but make it as short a cord as possible.

    Texas Master Electrician here.
     
  6. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    If you have to grill, make sure you place it in a pan and use indirect heat

    This way, it won't dry out

    Like the other guys said, try plugging directly into an outlet

    Remember, a GFI will trip for a fault, not necessarily excessive draw.

    Are you blowing the GFI, Circuit Breaker or Both?

    Todd
     
  7. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Usually when the GFI blows  around here there's water involved.
     
  8. Wow, so many replies even on a Holiday!  Thank you everyone!  Here are more details:

    - plugging directly into the wall - no extension cord, never have.

    - I pulled out the outlet to check for loose wiring. looked fine but noticed it is a 20amp circuit so plenty of juice. I used this same outlet all summer.

    - outlet is just inside my garage door and smoker never gets wet - so no moisture involved (that I know of)

    - garage is finished and well insulated

    - when I plug it directly into another outlet w/out a GFCI on it, it trips that whole circuit which is why Im leaning toward it being the smoker.

    Could the problem be related to the MES 30 people are complaining about that just stop working completely? Ive seen the instructions for removing the back and replacing the corroded connectors/wires. I'll probably be fixing my Moms using that solution.  I plan to check my wiring in the smoker this weekend...  Maybe its related to the electronic control unit on the top??

    Thanks again!
     
  9. hoity toit

    hoity toit Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    If it trips the whole circuit, element is bad  or there is a direct short in the unit somewhere... sorry for the bad news.

    Texas Master Electrician here.
     
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  10. fpnmf

    fpnmf Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Fl
    My guess is the wires on the element behind the panel are corroded and burned/shorting into the panel.

      Craig
     
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  11. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    X2
     
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  12. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    X 3  Probably the same cause for both smokers. Most seem to happen in 2 or 3 years.

    Seems to be the MES biggest weakness.

    Bear
     
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  13. I appreciate all the prompt and helpful comments.  I'll take it apart this weekend and check it out. 

    Have a great Thanksgiving!!
     
  14. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Have a great rest of your TG, BFnG !!!

    Shame it had to happen on TG morning.  [​IMG]

    Bear
     
  15. Well, I rewired my MES 30 according to the instructions on this site, replacing all the wires and terminals. I thought I had discovered a short in the ground wire so I was sure this was going to work but.... FAIL!  The same exact thing happens. As soon as I set time then time, it blows the GFCI.   Guess this MES going to the dump!  The element must be bad on this one. So disappointing! I really did like this thing but I cant see myself buying another Masterbuilt product....POS.   Thanks all anyway... :(
     
  16. sprky

    sprky Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Yep it's your element. DON'T TOSS IT! Get your self a replacment ellement and replace it. If you can rewire the unit you can replace the element no problem.

    I am also an electrician
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2011
  17. hoity toit

    hoity toit Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member


    Plug it tnto a non gfci circuit even if you use an extention cord and see if it heat. (weak GFCI may be the issue)

    Master electrician here.
     
  18. hoity toit

    hoity toit Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member


    gfcis have a End Of Life issue built into them. Yours may be borderline EOLife. just saying.
     
  19. I'm sorry to hear of your problems I have the same smoker and have yet to have these problems, hopefully these guys can help you get it working, but if for some unfortunate reason it can't be brought back to life the way masterbuilt intended it to be used, perhaps you could fix it with a PID system, or build a small smoke generator and turn it into a cold smoker?

    I really hope you can get it working, but just some thoughts if not I hate seeing things thrown away... sorry
     

  20. I would love to get one but where?  Masterbuilt no longer carries the elements for my model. [​IMG]   Id love to get it working.  I enjoyed while it was!
     

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