Completely agree with the previous post. Jeff, you must have a thick hide and obviously a different perspective on the situation, BUT, the truth is that in the brief time period I've been on the site, I've seen a lot of members drift away and many of them were the OTSB cadre. A lot is because of the frustrations many have with the site now under Huddler control. Your otherwise fine site is being hampered with these problems. A specific example: look at the problems Eric (forluvofsmoke) had in posting his latest epic smoke. He couldn't preview and experienced a lockup and loss of ready to post material, photos etc. As you well know, his posts are rather lengthy and a loss of that much data can be very frustrating. It's coming to be a case of it works then it doesn't work. Shoot yesterday, I was posting a reply to a newbie, made the post, then noticed an error, went in to edit and got locked up in the edit screen, not able to make the correction then kicked out of the edit function. Tried a second time and it kicked me back to the main page. Minor frustrations in the big picture? Yes, but.....frequent problems, no matter what the user's operating system (blaming it on incompatitibilty with, oh, I don't know Firefox today, windows, IE8 and then IE9 gets kinda thin in the long run.) We know it's not your fault personally but this Huddler machine is not up to site standards. Massaging here and there to make it work is a strong indicator of a product not truly ready for use in the internet environment. If you can leave this site experiencing problems, transition to another internet site and not experience similar problems, it kinda points to the site program as a problem source, not the individual.