Well today the college brought over their 84" Lang so that I can cook for a seminar that is Friday night. Well I must say I am not impressed at all with the craftsmanship or quality of them...Don't get me wrong I bet they cook great, obviously they do other wise they would not still be around. But the unfinished quality that I saw made me glad I didn't buy one. A couple big problems I saw right of were the tack welds of everything, nothing is finished, the air vents/dampers aren't even ground down on the inside so there is dross/slag still there. They didn't even take a grinder to the circle levers on the outside of the dampers. The list goes on and on...I am not sure how old this one is it does have the round ends so I know it is a older model...Any of you lang owners that have purchased a new one have the same stuff or has the quality gone up since they built this one? I will have pictures of these things tomorrow so that people can see what I am talking about.