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Discussion in 'Electric Smokers' started by cruiser rod, Oct 20, 2013.

  1. cruiser rod

    cruiser rod Smoke Blower

    If you eat a lot of smoked food do you have to worry about carcinogens?
  2. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Epic Pitmaster Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    What's a lot? I would no want to eat Smoked Food every day in big amounts. I still love it but, a couple times a week is plenty. To answer your question...Smoked food, nothing I have read indicates an issue and there are countries like Iceland that survive the winter on smoked food. Smoked/Cured meat, Yes there are studies that indicate that Nitrites in Cured meats like Ham, Bacon and Hot Dogs can form carcinogens in your stomach. But if you eat a salad with your un-cured meats the risks are just as high, as many leafy Greens and other Vegetables contain significant levels of Nitrites as well.

     I'm thinking, if I drive my car a lot, I could get in an accident. If I cross the street a lot, I could get hit by a car. Just like many things in life Moderation is going to be the safest...JJ
  3. mr t 59874

    mr t 59874 Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    You can read good and bad into almost anything.  I would suggest you do research on the subject and decide for yourself.

  4. I don't worry much about it!

    All things in moderation, including moderation! :biggrin:

    Everything we eat is potentially harmful to our health, there isn't a single food that doesn't have some sort of issue!!!!!!

    Carcinogenic aflatoxin in grains such as corn, sorghum, pearl millet, rice, and wheat
    Oilseeds such as peanuts, soybeans, sunflower seeds, and cottonseeds, etc.

    The toxin ergot in rye and other grains.

    Goitrogen toxins in soybeans (and soybean products such as tofu), pine nuts, peanuts, millet, strawberries, pears, peaches, spinach, bamboo shoots, radishes, horseradish, and vegetables in the genus Brassica (bok choy, broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, canola, cauliflower, Chinese cabbage, collard greens, kale, kohlrabi, mustard greens, rutabagas, and turnips.

    Carcinogenic hydrazines in shiitake and the white button mushrooms.

    Toxic lectins in many seeds, grains and legumes.

    Phytates in soybeans, whole wheat and rye.

    Toxic psoralens in celery, parsley and parsnips.

    Toxic solanines in tomatoes, peppers, and eggplant.

    Trypsin in soybeans.

    Phytoestrogens in legumes,

    Nitrates in green leafy vegetables.

    Carcinogenic nitrosamines in beer, non-fat dry milk and mushrooms.

    And on and on and on........

    Feel better now??? :biggrin:

  5. Just peachy Martin. Thanks for the ray of sunshine! LOL
  6. dward51

    dward51 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I remember reading about a study they did out at UCLA in the 1970's.  They sterilized silver dimes (yep the 10 cent dime) and surgically implanted them into lab rats.  Seems that all of them developed cancer.  So does that mean dimes are a carcinogenic?

    Point is you have to talk any study in context.  How many times has the government said one thing and come back and revised it later when more information became available.  That smoke and carcinogenic thing also came out in the 70's if I recall correctly.  Plus how you smoke meat and over what fuel source has a lot to do with it also.  I don't think chimney starters and lump charcoal were the source of fuel used back when those studies were made.  I'm sure there are no strange chemicals in lighter fluid right......

    On a factual basis, PAH and HCA's are formed when cooking meat at high temps.  The primary factor is fat dripping and vaporizing at very high temps, which is generally not what is happening in a smoker.   The studies I've seen generally talk about charred meat and not low and slow smoked meat.

    From www.cancer.gov:
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2013
  7. cruiser rod

    cruiser rod Smoke Blower

    Thanks guys, one thing I read here that was posted is the carcinogens that are found in charred meats are were probably the scare really came from. I didn't want to scare anyone with this post I was just curious how high or what the risk might be if any. The comment was made to me by someone that really cares for me. Now I can intelligently respond back to them with good information. Thanks again!
  8. skully

    skully Meat Mopper

    would common sense not be the first and fore most to anyhting in life???
  9. foamheart

    foamheart Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    First we don't burn out meat, not on purpose.

    We can hire some white lab rats and force feed them with ALL of Woodcutters ham, and see if they die. If they do die can we get that happily satisfied contented smile off their faces?

    AND if it does, isn't chared food like charcoal, isn't charcoal good for your renal system? Lets all eat smoked meats a pee easier.
  10. If reading a government study, ignore at all cost.
  11. Bearcarver

    Bearcarver SMF Hall of Fame Pitmaster OTBS Member

    Yes can be very dangerous if you're smoking cigarettes while waiting for the meat to be ready.