Can't get enough smoke

Discussion in 'Pork' started by gk0130, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. gk0130

    gk0130 Newbie

    Hi All,

     I have to admit I'm a relative beginner when it come to smoking.  I purchased a MES 30 and have been using it for about six months.

    The problem is I just can't seem to generate enough smoke.  My ribs are tender and flavorful but they don't have a real Smokey flavor and I can't get a smoke ring.

    How long can I  keep filling the little tray with chips.  It seems like I would have to do that every 20-30 minutes to get continuous smoke.  I'm concerned that the ash residue might make the ribs taste funny.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.


    GK in Framingahm.
  2. schlotz

    schlotz Meat Mopper

    Many here have gone to using pellets in a tray by A-Maze-N products vs using the MES chip process.  Search for threads on the subject.  You can find their product here
  3. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

     There are many posts on smoking with the MES. Some models work best with the Tube, others the Maze. Also look up the Mailbox Mod, makes it easy to hot or cold smoke in the MES...JJ
  4. hillbilly jim

    hillbilly jim Meat Mopper

    I just recently bought an AMNPS and a 40 lb. bag of pellets. The first smoke I did with it was a coupla' blocks of cheese. It ran just over 16 hours, non stop. I got all the smoke I wanted, that proverbial 'ring' and great hickory flavor.

    At the risk of spending your money for you, buy an AMNPS and a bag of pellets and then chuck them chips in the dumpster. You'll never regret it.
  5. gk0130

    gk0130 Newbie

    Thanks for the feed back.   I was  thinking the 12" tube would be a good one for the MES.  I assume it would have to be placed on the bottom rack.  Not sure if the AMNPS might take up to much of the rack.
  6. smokesontuesday

    smokesontuesday Smoking Fanatic

    The tube makes too much smoke for the MES. The AMNPS was designed and heavily tested specifically for the MES.
  7. gk0130

    gk0130 Newbie

    Okay I went ahead and ordered the AMNPS and a good supply of pellets.  Where in the MES 30 do you place the AMNPS when smoking?


  8. smokesontuesday

    smokesontuesday Smoking Fanatic

    Which generation MES 30 do you have?
  9. gk0130

    gk0130 Newbie

    I'm not sure, but I purchased it about a year ago.
  10. smokesontuesday

    smokesontuesday Smoking Fanatic

    Post pics of it and we can figure it out. AMNPS placement varies from gen to gen.
  11. GaryHibbert

    GaryHibbert Smoking Guru OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I use an AMNPS in my Mes 30 Gen 1.  I could never keep it burning--just wasn't enough air flow.  So I added the mailbox mod and haven't looked back since.  With the mailbox mod, it burns flawlessly and I get all the smoke flavor I could ask for.  Just make sure you always leave the top vent wide open!!!!

    I still use the chip tray if I run out of (or don't have) the kind of pellets I want for a particular smoke.  It works OK, but you have to babysit the chip tray.

    Last edited: Jul 23, 2016
  12. gk0130

    gk0130 Newbie

    is a picture.  Let me know what you think.  Thanks everyone.
  13. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    That's a Generation #2.

    Try removing that little water pan from the POS slanted drip plate, and put the AMNPS right over the hole left by removing the water pan.

    You can put a foil pan on the floor under the hole.

    If you have trouble with the right side of your smoker being hotter than the left, pull that slanted Drip Plate out completely.

    Then put your bottom rack in place, and put your AMNPS on the right end of that bottom rack.

    If you have trouble keeping the AMNPS going, pull the chip dumper out a couple inches.

    If the smoke gets too heavy, push the chip dumper back in.

    Put a disposable foil pan in the center of that bottom rack for a drip pan.

    Hope this helps,

    Last edited: Jul 23, 2016
  14. gk0130

    gk0130 Newbie

    Thanks for the help Bear.  I'll let you know how I make out when my AMNPS arrives.

  15. gk0130

    gk0130 Newbie

    Did my first smoke with the new AMNPS in my MES30.  The AMNPS is a game changer.  No fussing with the chip dumper every 20 minutes.  I got about 3 full hours of smoke filling the AMNPS with a little more than a full row of pellets.  I used smoking ALs perfect timed ribs recipe.  Ribs were nice and flavorful, Smokey and tender.  Thanks everyone who told me about Amazin products.

  16. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    That's Great !![​IMG]

    Everybody gets various times out of the AMNPS, but I always estimate 3 hours per row, and 9 to 11 hours on a full load.

    Sounds like you're right in that area too.

  17. redheelerdog

    redheelerdog Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    The AMAZN really is AMAZN!

    Glad you got it going good.

  18. Greetings all,  I have a new MES 20070411 gen 1 smoker and have seasoned it.

    I have also the Amnp 5x8 which I would like to try this weekend on spare ribs.

    Now I have read a lot on this fine site and would like to ask a few questions.

    - can the water pan be completely removed or is it useful for the air flow ?

    - for placing the Amnp in the smoker is it preferable on the lowest rack at the back right or on the bottom grease pan ?

    I appreciate in advance your help.

  19. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    In a Generation #1, the best place for the AMNPS is usually on the support rods to the left of the chip burner assembly.

    I just cover my Water Pan with foil, and keep it in place. It keeps the direct heat from hitting the underside of the meat.

  20. Thank you Bear for the helpful reply, another quick question do you also cover with foil the bottom grease pan?

    I did a dry run today with pellets and heater set at 225F which I filled the Maze 5x8 with one row only and it lasted almost exactly 3 hrs. with TBS.

    The pellets smoked without having to relight them once.

    The MES temperature showed around 14 degrees less than the Maverick 735 so I ordered a $10.00 temp with probe to find which one is closest but I suspect  Maverick will win the day.

    Take Care all,


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