So after talking with BMUDD & realizing I didn't have to have a grinder stuffer to try some sausage I had to try. Got my spices from Coulmbia ( thanks again bmudd) Bought some ground pork. Three teaspoons of the spices in the processor & then a pan fry test!! These were awesome fist time out. I put some green chili's & monterey for the wife which was another hit!! Going to try the brat spice next! It' spouring outside so I can't try to smoke any yet, but I think I made my plea for a grinder/stuffer.