Hi chefrob we never met, but I've come across your posts in some of the threads I've followed since joining. Now I came across a question you might be able answer. Another nubbie has posted pics of commercial looking, natural gas, all stainless vertical smoker. Its got a red knob with a "w" on it. He's asking for help identifying it. Did Wolf ever make a gas smoker? The thread with the pics is under propane smokers. Just trying to help a guy out. Thanks for your time.