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White gravey

Discussion in 'Blowing Smoke Around the Smoker.' started by GaryHibbert, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. GaryHibbert

    GaryHibbert Legendary Pitmaster OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Hey all

    Dirtsailor got me thinking about biscuits and gravey--love it.  But I have never been able to make good white gravey.  Anybody have a fantastic recipe??

    Gary
     
  2. Well...I don't really dig on your typical sausage gravy, but this is the basics for my Grandmother's Hamburger gravy (same principle, but you would probably want to drain most of the grease off the sausage):

    It's one of those 'scale' old-time recipes, no real measurements. :)

    Ingredients:

    Hamburger, pref 85/15 if you don't want to drain any grease off (or sausage, in your case)

    Flour (usually less than a 1/2 cup)

    Milk (varies every time)

    Hamburger, browned (s&p to taste). After browning, add flour til the grease is turned into a roux-like consistency (thick and kinda funky looking lol). Cook briefly (medium heat) to cook out the raw-flour taste. Add milk, stirring constantly (initially just cover the meat layer, you can add more if too thick, but can't take it out!!!), and allow to come right to boiling, then turn it down to simmer. Test taste for salt/pepper level, and serve over boiled potatoes (biscuits, in your case). With tons of butter. :)

    Lol. 

    Mom made a version that she called 'chipped beef gravy' that she served with biscuits. Using that cheap wafer lunch meat (Carl Buddig?), but that required adding butter while heating the meat because it didn't have enough fat in it. Typical roux is 1 pt butter to 1 pt flour, cooked (in the case of white gravy) just to a very light beige...
     
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  3. kathrynn

    kathrynn Legendary Pitmaster OTBS Member

    Gary....This is what we do down here!

    Country White Gravy

    1/2 cup vegetable oil/bacon grease/or some sort of fat

    3/4 cup all-purpose flour

    1 teaspoon salt

    1 teaspoon ground black pepper

    4 cups milk

    Heat the oil in a large skillet over medium heat. Whisk in the flour, salt and pepper until smooth. Cook and stir over medium heat until browned, about 10 minutes. Gradually stir in milk so that no lumps form, and continue cooking and stirring until thickened. If the gravy becomes too thick, you may thin it with a little more milk.

    If you want sausage in it...crumble cooked sausage in it...and stir and let simmer until warm.

    Kat
     
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  4. Oh...Always knew there was something wrong with Alabama! OIL GRAVY!!! lol *runaway!!! JK! :)

    Much like with smoking meats, ask 20 people, get 20 answers, cause everybody cooks to what they know/love. Gravy...

    Hmmmm...let's derail and discuss mashed potatoes: With or without lumps? Rofl! :D
     
  5. miamirick

    miamirick Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    well from the gators view both of you are wrong

    bama is always wrong


    and tennesee is worse


    GOOOOOO Gators

    gotta find a better recipe than what you guys put up
     
  6. radio

    radio Master of the Pit

    I make sausage gravy quite often, but "eyeball" the measurements.  I would guess they are similar to kat's above, but I brown half a pound of sausage and leave the grease in the skillet and only add canola oil to get enough liquid for the roux.  The most important step for good white gravy is to brown the roux or the gravy will taste like flour paste with salt and pepper in it. I also use a whisk when adding the milk so I don't get lumps in the gravy

    Try some Chocolate gravy sometime too.
     
  7. That was a Middle America Corn/hog/beef-raisers gravy recipe. :) lol I have no clue how they do it dow(n here)...oh...yeah...they make that damned oil gravy down here, too, and I won't eat it!!! :D lol

    If it's not animal fat...it's...not gravy. lol
     
  8. mdboatbum

    mdboatbum Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Yeah, I'd follow Lady Kat's recipe in a second with zero doubt...if I didn't have my own. :)

    But seriously, Kat's looks like a basis for really good white gravy.

    Here's how I do it.

    Take a pound of good breakfast sausage and dump it into your heaviest 12" skillet over medium heat. Cast iron is really the only way here, but for the less fortunate, any heavy bottomed skillet will do. Break up the sausage with a wooden spoon and continue stirring and breaking up the lumps until it's about 2/3-3/4 done. It should be mostly browned, but with some pink bits remaining. Then, and trust me on this one, dump in a cup of water. It will sizzle and make all manner of unholy noises, but then it will settle down to a simmer. Then, with the same wooden spoon, scrape the bottom of the pan to get all the browned goodies off and continue stirring for 5 minutes until the sausage is in uniform small pieces and is done. What we're doing here is coaxing ALL the fat out of the sausage and providing some room for it to break down completely. Now, drain your sausage in a mesh strainer over a bowl large enough to catch ALL the liquid. Let it drain for a minute or 2 to make sure all the liquid comes out. Set the strainer containing the meat aside.

    Next, return your skillet to HIGH heat and pour in the liquid you strained off the sausage. This will be a little unpleasant. It'll pop and sizzle and act like it's going to explode. It won't. This is just the water evaporating. After 2 or 3 minutes, it should calm down. At this point pull it off the heat and let it cool for 2 or 3 minutes. What you'll have is the most perfect, golden pork fat you've ever seen. You should have about 4 Tablespoons. If you have less, add cooking oil to make up the difference. At this point, mix 3 cups of skim milk (WHAT?!?!) and one cup of chicken stock (WHAT?!?!) and have ready by the stove.(You want a savory gravy, not wallpaper paste) Return the oil in the skillet to medium low heat and sift in 3 tablespoons of flour. With a whisk, keep this moving around the pan for 3 or 4 minutes until it just starts to brown and smell nutty.

    Now whisk in about a cup of the milk/stock mixture and form a paste. this is important as you're avoiding lumps here. Once you have a smooth paste, whisk in the rest of the liquid. It will look WAY too thin, but it's ok. Crank the heat to medium high and continue whisking. It should thicken up in 3 or 4 minutes, When it coats the back of a spoon, taste for seasoning. Add black pepper and cayenne to taste. Then, add the sausage you cooked earlier. The mixture should be on the thin side, as it will thicken as it cools at the table. Serve over Lady Kat's Buttermilk Biscuits and prepare to be called upon to provide breakfast often.
     
  9. If done well...delicious. If done wrong...it'll turn a child off of chocolate pudding for life. :) lol

    Also, the flavor of gravy is way too limited. Try tomato. Bell pepper. Mushroom. Name it, make a gravy out of it. (Gotta do something with this stuff before it rots!) lol
     
  10. I'm allowing this (I suppose) insult, because I couldn't care less about sports. My FIL law, on the other hand... rofl

    Back to the gravy!!!

    Yeah, beef fat doesn't suffer that 'water/fat boily' thing. It's just GBD before you add the flour. :) lol

    Never used a whisk, we always use a wooden spoon. But yes, cast iron skillet. :)
     
  11. mdboatbum

    mdboatbum Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Beef fat benefits too. It's the same principle as the rendering process to make lard from pigs or tallow from beef. The water acts as a solvent to break down the meat fibers and allow all the fat to float out.
     
  12. miamirick

    miamirick Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Just having some fun with you. You started with the Bama crack. Love college ball and sausage gravy
     
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  13. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member

    Only thing I can add to that is use Pop's country sausage for the "good sausage".
     
  14. mdboatbum

    mdboatbum Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Couple edits to my recipe above. You can use 4 TB of flour for thicker gravy if you like. I just like mine on the thinner side. You can also use whole milk or half and half if you like it richer. I like to use skim or 2% so the flavor of the sausage isn't masked by the fat in the milk, but everybody has different tastes.
     
  15. eman

    eman Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member

    Can't have white gravy w/o bacon grease
     
  16. GaryHibbert

    GaryHibbert Legendary Pitmaster OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Hey

    Thanks to you all!!  If I can't make a perfect white gravey after all this help, then I guess I'll just give away my cast iron frying pan

    Gary
     
  17. kathrynn

    kathrynn Legendary Pitmaster OTBS Member

    MiamiRick.....just because I live in Alabama.....does NOT mean I am a UA fan. Oh quite contrair!



    Are you still on the Tim Tebow train? Sorry....had to ask!


    Gary....you will do fine! Experiment and you will find the one you like! Pops Country breakfast sausage is the bomb!

    Kat
     
  18. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member

    Fantastic, I need another CI pan. I will PM you my mailing address so you can send the pan! Have you seasoned the CI pan with Flaxseed oil? If not then you need to!
     
  19. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member

    Sure can! Pork is pork, and Pop's Country Sausage makes great gravy!
     
  20. kathrynn

    kathrynn Legendary Pitmaster OTBS Member

    Case.....I want that pan! I collect CI too!

    Kat