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Just as a side note since we are in the Smoking-it site. After my "belches" I looked the smoker over very well to see if there might have been any damage. Absolutely none, it is a heavy duty dude, in fact, for comparison:

I recently ran across a new Bradley smoker, assembled, larger size than my Smoke-it #2 on the local Craigs list that had never been fired up. (retail price $ more than my #2). Knowing my daughter and son-in-law liked my smoking and wanted to start trying it themselves, I decided to see if I could give them a gift. The price was more than really right, not much more than shipping of my #2.

Told Wifey, this is a brand new high dollar smoker. Let's look at it and decide if we want to keep it ourselves and give my Daughter my old Smoke-it #2 or not.

Called the seller and took Wifey along in my pick up to help me load it. What a waste of Wifey's time. Ever picked up an empty tall cardboard box all by yourself? Had to tie it down not to keep it from shifting, but to keep it from blowing out of the back of my truck.

Immediately made the decision of which way to go. We gave it to them as a present, wondering how it will do in cold weather, wondering how long the electronic gizmowhiz electronic temperature controller will last, wondering how long the mechanical drive special puck smoke feeder assembly will feed.

I hope it works well for them as long as it can. When I am gone and they have to go through my stuff, only then can they can have my dependable as my oven, hot water heater technology, if it is too cold turn on, if it is too hot turn off, average 225' Smoke-it #2 and get back to smoking and pull things out the door like I do.

“Set it and forget it” has a whole new meaning with the Smoke-it smokers.

The only down side I can see to what I am doing now is that there is no way to justify several hours over night sitting on the deck drinking more than a few beers “watching” the smoker. Put the Pork Butt on in the evening, go to bed, get up in the morning and go to the lake for the day, play golf, etc. come home, drop in the cooler an hour or so, pull the smoked pork butt and eat it.

Want to bitch about not having a crispy bark? Simple, as you are unloading all your stuff from 8 hours on the lake, or all your hours on the golf course, fire up your gas grill and spend a few minutes singing the outside skin.

Works for me, your mental attitude may vary.
 
Well said. Don't depart this earth too soon; you still have many smokes to go.

Let us know how the Bradley works out.
 
 
Want to bitch about not having a crispy bark? Simple, as you are unloading all your stuff from 8 hours on the lake, or all your hours on the golf course, fire up your gas grill and spend a few minutes singing the outside skin.
I get great bark from my #2 straight out of the smoker. 






 
I usually like the amount of bark I have for beef and prok also, there have been comments made by some who burn real wood or charcoal at times concerning electic bark.  I sometimes singe my ribs and chicken on the grill a few minutes after smoking in my electric just to change the outside texture a little.
 
I own the Model #3 and this is by far the best at home smoker you can buy on the market.  All the smokers that you find in the stores are cheaply made and their seals are made of rubber/plastic strips. The smokin-it are made of stainless steel all around, these things are built like tanks. I have owned mine now for a few years and have never had a problem with it. Be sure to stay away from masterbuilt, masterforge and many of the other cheap made smokers that you will find at your common stores today. 
 
I am the exception to the rule. I have had a horrible experience with the Smokin-it Company and a smokin-it #3. I got a bad element - SEASONED IT, SMOKED A RACK OR 2, THEN DEAD. I received no return calls from the Owner. I finally got the Owner (via email) and the element was replaced, but the unit wouldn't give me a constant temp. I never could understand why it was built like a brick sh!t house and then they put such an inferior/inaccurate heat source in it. I must tell you, they were very helpful over at their forums (especially old sarge). Like a said, nothing from the Owner, so I would be hard pressed to be a loyal customer.
 

I did the mod with the Auber and the permanent probe. The temp is pretty much on the money now - if it goes off 2 degrees (like it did on New Year's Day) that's a lot. It was very windy and very cold (in the 20's) on my deck where the smoker was (so +-2 degrees is acceptable). Other than that, it is usually +-1 degree. This smoker is killer and not have one complaint about the product it produces. My friends can't believe how little wood it needs to get the smoke flavor. It smokes an excellent fish (I am a huge into salt water fishing) and took everything I threw at it.

Here are a few photos of my New Year's bone in rib eye. Moist and juicy with an incredible bark.

 
The prime rib looks very good. The above comments regarding the heating element in the SI smokers, dead not withstanding (and replaced under warranty?), they are analog and temperatures do fluctuate or swing 20/30 degrees high and low of the set point per the web site FAQ. Fact of life. A great many owners, including my brother, live with this fact every day and enjoy the results.  Likewise, a great many folks such as Big Fish desire a great deal of accuracy and therefore purchase an Auber, wire it into the SI smoker, and eliminate those swings. In the final analysis however, a 6 hour smoke with or without temperature swings is still a 6 hour smoke. 
 
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Have two Chuck Roasts in the Smoke-it #2 with time on my hands. If I post what I think about Smoke-it, it will sound like a “paid” advertisement, like I would for my Grate-Wall-of-Fire opinion I have been happy with.

Ya know, lots of people have driven Fords, but Chevrolet's have won more races in motorsports combined in competition, lots of people shoot Glocks, but Colts have been reliably carried by more people and stopped more intruders than all other brands combined, so lets not hassle with “my Yugo is better than your Mazaratti with gas millage” here, we are talking easy smoking. (see note at bottom)

I have owned a Smoke-it #2 for a couple of years now and it has worked as expected and I have not had a reason to deal with the manufacturer. It arrived one day early in shipping, and does what it was advertised to do. Many others have posted and the company has mostly be very responsive.

Yes, when I first got it, I did the dual temp thing measuring the meat and the rack temp and I averaged out just fine for me, the dial was close to center average of temp swings of what I wanted.

Then some of the gurus of smoking started talking about the temp swings and were fanatic about doing something to hold a constant temp on the rack.

Well, keeping a constant temp on the rack would be nice ----- I guess. (Different than a standard household oven used daily baking cakes that is on/off like the original Smoke-it like I have.

Before I purchased my Smoke-it I would do 20 hour smokes and sometime during the first or the 12th beer or after I decided to take a nap and my temperature would vary 20' or so with a log flaring up or needing to add more charcoal. My meat would turn out just fine, but I had to “work” at it.

With the temp swings in the Smoke-it #2, I just keep on smoking and keep pulling out great meats. I still drink a few beers while doing other things and take a nap when I want. I just wait for the beeper to go off on my temperature sensor, (I check in between to keep it honest) to tell me when it is time to take it out. We had one occurrence when both Wifey and I looked at each other like “What the Hell is that beeping noise?” On yes, the pork butt we both forgot about from yesterday is done and ready to wrap for the cooler.

I provided process control equipment for industry for many years. In some cases, +5' and the product is burnt. -5' and the product turns to plastic and they shut the plant down for clean out the pipes. This is not what I am desiring to deal with smoking pork butts in retirement.

I most likely have enough commercial grade stuff in junk boxes in my barn left over from refinery and nuke power house projects to replicate the Aurbor function to hold the temp within a 1/2 degree temp in my smoker or so. PID control is all you need, even with opening the door if it is tuned correctly. I so not remember any of my stuff with timer functions, but that could be easily added to the circuitry fi desired.

Thought about putting some of my spare stuff together to hold my temp very constant since i would have no cost for materials. After a little thought and a few beers, I do not see it being worth the effort. It is hard to beat the reliability of an on/off switch. My smokes are as good as I have the ability to read the meat.

As far as other brands of smokers, hands down Smoke-it is quality. I found a Bradley tall smoker on the local Craig's list for a real deal. New, un-boxed but never used. Picked it up for my Daughter and Son in law who have Birthdays and Christmas close together for a combination present. Went to pick it up, grabbed hold of it with a bear hug to pick it up like my Smoke-it #2 it and hit myself in the chin, should have put one hand under the bottom of it to pick it up to load it. Must be tinfoil.

We are trying to work out the door not sealing and it not being able to hold temp with the ambient temp at 35'. Kinda feel bad about giving it to them now. I gave them 1/2 of the PB I smoked last week I cooked in the snow to get them by. It may work well in the summer. I hope the electronic/mechanical pellet feeder digital system holds up a while.

I have a very heavy duly Smoke-it #2 SS box that needs no door seals, needs no mechanical feeder, needs no electronic digital control, that I will be using the next 20-25 yrs. I feel comfortable.

If I need. I can find parts at Grainger for a heater element if I had to. I can produce smoke and heat my box to 225 + or - some degree of tolerance that will not burn my meat nor cause it to spoil, set it-and-forget it, until it is done.

I guess I have dealt with so many mechanical and electronic devices in my life that KISS works for me.

If you are tuned into 99% Competition BBQ, absolutely Yes, meat cooked on a Stick Burner will taste a lot better. Yes, meat cooked on an Charcoal burner will taste better. For me, my Brisket, Ribs, Pork Butt, Chuck Roast, fatties on the Smoke-it have been great. Chicken, not for me, I like the skins crispy, I throw on the grill. Scrimp, not for me, I throw on the grill. Stuffed peppers, not for me, I throw on the grill. Smoked cheese, nope, throw in the cold smoker.

Bottom line, if you are going to use an electric smoker, Smoke-it should be your only consideration. I hope you get the gist of what I think. Ken
 
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Interesting post Driver 

I am a stick burner, but I feel that whatever type smoker you use Get Familiar with it. They all smoke different and have their own characteristics. In over 40 years of smoking I have never had a smoker that holds a perfect or even temp from side to side or top to bottom, not sure why so many are obsessed with this. I have one side that runs a little hotter than the other side but use it to my advantage.  Main thing is if you get to know your smoker you shouldn't have any issues with a few degrees defference.

Gary
 
 
I am very pleased with my MES40, all stainless with a window. I don't know what you are basing your opinion on. 

Chuck
I think you can produce some darn good food with MES smokers and it is great that you are happy with yours. If that is all you can afford or want to spend, by all means get one. But, know that you will probably be looking for another smoker in 3-10 years max (you'll be lucky to get 10) as they just don't last. If you want a smoker that will last, smokers like the Smokin-It, Smokin-Tex, and Cookshack are a better option in my opinion.

I'm not trying to knock the MES smokers, as they have a huge share of the smoker market and for good reason. They put out a good value product. For what you pay for them, there is good value and an easy entry point for new smokers to get into this hobby.

I have gone through several types of smokers including two MES versions, and am happy that I finally found the Smokin-It. I got tired of buying new smokers ever 3-4 years.
 
Woaa, take it easy there Bear! ;)

You are taking a big leap to say that anyone recently on this thread is saying that the MES smokers "Suck".

As I stated above, you can put out some really good product in the MES smokers, and I have read enough threads in this forum to know that you are a pioneer in a lot of ways and really know your stuff. So, don't get your resulting product and extensive experience confused with the quality of the smoker that you are using.

The point is that they don't last. You are only 4 years into this. I will be surprised if you get anywhere close to 10 out of your MES40. That is all I am saying. I know there are some outliers out there that will claim that they have had their MES smoker for X umpteen years and I would believe them. That is expected with the sheer number of smokers that they sell. Like I said, they are a good value for the money. But "on average", I don't think there is much question that the quality verses the Smokin-It style smoker just isn't anywhere close.

We can agree to disagree on the quality of the MES smokers. But don't take my comments as disrespect to your product results or your smoking acumen. That was never the intention.
 
 
Interesting post Driver 

I am a stick burner, but I feel that whatever type smoker you use Get Familiar with it. They all smoke different and have their own characteristics. In over 40 years of smoking I have never had a smoker that holds a perfect or even temp from side to side or top to bottom, not sure why so many are obsessed with this. I have one side that runs a little hotter than the other side but use it to my advantage.  Main thing is if you get to know your smoker you shouldn't have any issues with a few degrees defference.

Gary
Gary, this statement to "Get Familiar "With Your Smoker is the bottom line.  I have smoked pretty good briskets on all of my grilling tools. Charcoaler, propane grill, electric smoker, even with a rack on a campfire.  Each one cooks different, each one has a little different taste, just like every individual piece of meat.  Myself, I like good and easy, so I am doing electric now most of the time..  Who knows, I may change equipment again some day.  My post was just my opinion of what I have experience with up to this point.

Keep on smoking with what ever works for you.
 
Learning is the key to a trouble free life.  Even when it comes to outdoor cooking. Or getting along with people.
 
"In the final analysis however, a 6 hour smoke with or without temperature swings is still a 6 hour smoke." Not quite a true statement old sarge. I would hate to have my fish go off by 20 degrees during a smoke. That would be called "cooking" and I have an oven for that.  ;-)
 
 
"In the final analysis however, a 6 hour smoke with or without temperature swings is still a 6 hour smoke." Not quite a true statement old sarge. I would hate to have my fish go off by 20 degrees during a smoke. That would be called "cooking" and I have an oven for that.  ;-)
BigFish, I think for the type of smoking you do and what you want out of it, it is a good thing that you got the Auber.

For those of us that don't do a lot of fish, the 20-30 degree swings don't matter at all. I see an Auber in my future, but not having one, hasn't affected any of my smokes.

I am glad that you got yours working the way you want it though now. Come back over the Smokin-It forum and share some of your successes. :)
 
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