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matty gunns

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Hey guys my name is matt I live in philadelphia, pa. Im new to smoking and I am using a 18.5'' WSM. Im a fireman here in phila and i have a couple of books i have been reading one of them is project smoke and the other is from the smokin hoggz guys. First smoke i did a pork butt and came out too smoky. I know its gonna take alot of time but im really excited and could use tips from you seasoned guys. I really appreciate it and cant wait to get started again.
 
Hi Matt!  Welcome to the forum!  I've got the same smoker and have never made a butt "too smoky"  More info would be needed for an accurate analysis, but my guess would be stale smoke.  Was the top vent fully open?  If smoke circulates in the smoker without exhausting, creosote can happen and give a bitter smoky taste to the meat.  Lots of great info and experience available here.  Hang in there!

Mike
 
Thanks mike. It was my first time using the smoker and i used kingsford blue used about 15 lbs of an 18 lb bag. Used the minion method and once i added the hot coals and the fire was going i closed the lid and my temp was really high about 350. After messing with the vents got it to 225-250 and added the butt it was a little over 4 lbs and 2 chunks of hickory. my temps fluctuated Alot and got under 200 maybe once or twice weather was cold and windy. I did close the top vent to get the temp down when it was too high i guess i should always leave the top vent open from now on. Kept the hickory in the whole smoke i pulled it when temp was 166 and it looked great with good bark. I foiled and put back on until temp was 195. Took it off and the bark was gone sort of looked soggy. Let it sit foiled About an hour. Smoke ring looked good to a rookie but butt was a little dried out and kind of bitter. Whole smoke time was about 7 hrs. If u took the time
To read this thank you
 
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Welcome to SMF!

I think you now know that the top vent in a WSM needs to be fully open all the time.

You regulate the temp with the bottom vents. Once I get the temp stabilized, the setup that works for me is top vent open 100%, 2 bottom vents closed & the third bottom vent just cracked open.

I'm sure next time it will be much easier for you.

Al
 
Thanks mike. It was my first time using the smoker and i used kingsford blue used about 15 lbs of an 18 lb bag. Used the minion method and once i added the hot coals and the fire was going i closed the lid and my temp was really high about 350. After messing with the vents got it to 225-250 and added the butt it was a little over 4 lbs and 2 chunks of hickory. my temps fluctuated Alot and got under 200 maybe once or twice weather was cold and windy. I did close the top vent to get the temp down when it was too high i guess i should always leave the top vent open from now on. Kept the hickory in the whole smoke i pulled it when temp was 166 and it looked great with good bark. I foiled and put back on until temp was 195. Took it off and the bark was gone sort of looked soggy. Let it sit foiled About an hour. Smoke ring looked good to a rookie but butt was a little dried out and kind of bitter. Whole smoke time was about 7 hrs. If u took the time
To read this thank you
Hi Matty. To reduce the levels of smoke flavour you can wrap the brisket in foil after about 3 hours for the remainder of the cook, exposing it again for the last hour if you are looking for a firmer bark.

In cold and gusty weather it is important to use the smoker in a sheltered location, and if this is not possible to place some wind baffles around it or use an insulated cover.

Swings of temperature can also be caused by opening the lid or the door. Was it kept closed for most of the smoke?

If it had reached 350 before you put the meat in you were not controlling the temperature sufficiently or had added too many lit coals to begin with. As soon as you add the coals to the centre of the Minion it is important to put the lid on and let it start to stabilise. 

Leave the top and bottom vents fully open and watch the temperature rise. As it approaches 3/4 desired temperature start to close down the bottom vents - half way at first and then progressively more as the temperature increases.

Once it has reached temperature and stabilised it should need little further adjustment - just the odd minor tweak.

I find that in my 18" that about 3.5 Kg of good quality briquettes will give me a good stable 225 F for about 12 hours.


To begin with, as Al says, it is best to keep the top vent fully open. As you get more familiar with the temperature management you may find that once it is up to temperature, by closing the top vent to about 50% you will be able to get finer temperature control using the bottom vents. In cold weather though you will probably need to keep the top vents fully open.
 
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Hello and welcome to SMF from the Great white North  
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. Browse the forums and ask lots of questions, get involved. There is a an amazing amount of info, recipes and knowledge here that are second to none. Enjoy good luck and share your experiences.  
 
I think youre right about me using too many coals i used about double what you stated. Also i kept a full
Chimney of hot coals and added them to start my fire burned really hot too many coals was my first impression. It was an open area and cold i rarely took the lid off and only opened the door when the temp dropped below 200 i stoked the coals. All in all the temps were going up and down alot. About how much of a chimney do you fire up to put on the unburned coals when u start your fire? Once it comes to temp can i add my meat or should i let ir stabilize more? Thanks for all the help fellas
 
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I turn my chimney upside down and almost fill the top section.  I add meat as soon as it hits 225.

Mike
 
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