Why not let everyone go their own way, just because it may not be your way doesn't mean it's not right, or the only way to go, different strokes for different folks. Chat isn't going going control the entire forum, folks just don't want to frequent that aspect a lot. Why don't y'all dozen chat guys exchange phone numbers yourselves, nobody cares. Seems like you are all in about the same area code, just seems so odd that the chat regulars are so much against this. Looks like the guys who are for this range from coast to coast. I don't understand the problem, unless you feel you've got some kind of control issue, and that's certainly not in the best interest of the forum anyway. Let's take a look at the history of who's posted what as far as sharing information about cooks and how to go about it. I knew what I was doing when I got here and have never been afraid to share, all more than ready to prove it. how 'bout you? Now I'm getting pissed off, I'd best stop right now. RAY