A decent stand alone 8# entry level grinder can be had for around what the KA attachment cost. I don't remember the regular price, but I got my 8# Weston for 100 bucks on sale. As far as sutffers, get the LEM 5#. Aside from the elbow on the hakka and others like it, if you ever need parts, it's as simple as going to LEM and getting parts.