Help...MES40 Puffing Flames!

Discussion in 'Electric Smokers' started by chef jimmyj, Jan 1, 2012.

  1. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    Hey guys, My MES is humming along at 230*F when the Over Temp alarm goes off on my Mav732...The Temp is at 265* and climing and every few seconds there is a Puff of white smoke and a a Flame shooting out of the side Chip loader...What's up with that and what should I do?...JJ
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2012
  2. jak757

    jak757 Smoking Fanatic Group Lead

    Do you have chips in the loader?  maybe overloaded? I've only used my amnps in mine, so I'm not sure jj.

    Good luck Chef!!
  3. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Every once in a while the MES back drafts and "Farts" out the chip loader

    It's a build up of Gas inside the smoker

    It's happened to me and scare the crap out of me.

  4. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    What you smoking JJ?
  5. smokeamotive

    smokeamotive Smoking Fanatic

  6. JJ only use a small amount of chips and make sure the chip filler is all the way in. Mine was doing this and i cut a piece of metal plate to put in the chip pan so there was a double floor in the pan. This solved my problem as my chip box was getting too hot and this gave me the right temperature on the pan floor to smother chips. Len
  7. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    Hey Al, I have a Rib Roast, Dino Bones, ABT's, Pork Shots and Moinks working...I have a Camera now so I can start Documenting my Smokes again...I have be doing various items but with no camera I didn't post any of them...JJ
  8. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    This damn thing is acting funny to day...The Temp is set at 225*F and the Mav BBQ probe is reading 290*F...I'm so confused...[​IMG]...JJ
  9. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Sounds like you got a load in there. The controllers are never right (except on mine) so just adjust it to the Mav. You might have to set the controller to 180 to get the smoker temp at 225.
  10. sprky

    sprky Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I'd trust the maverick over stock thermometer any day. got no clue on the smoke puff out chip loader
  11. Where are you puting the Mav Probe? The MES Prob sensor Is on the back wall, I think third shelf from the top. That is where I always put one of my Mav BBQ Probes. I usually put another on the top rack too.
  12. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    JJ, afternoon.... with all that food in there, there may not be enought room between the pieces for air flow to the exhaust... 

    Exhaust wide open, chip drawer out 1/8" inch after you dump about 1/4 cup of chips in it...  Check the MES door with a dollar bill to make sure it is sealing tight... trust the Mav probe and adjust the controller so the Mav reads what you want.... 

    If you have any concerns about the meat, you have my address....[​IMG]   Dave
  13. garyinmd

    garyinmd Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    JJ. My MES30 has done this a few times and Todd said it right, "farts out the side", I had my loader turned to the unlock position before and it shot it out onto the deck when it passed gas, the smoker was just not breathing right.  As stated above do not overload the chip tray, since I lowered the amount of wood used I have not had the same problem.  As all smokers these things have a learning curve but once you get it figured out they are great.  Not sure why your temps are that far off, when I get my setpoint above the 200 deg mark it will run within 5 deg of my ET732, below that can be a good 30 deg off.   

    For now I would lower the setpoint, open the door to let out the heat and humidity then just monitor and take good notes for the next trip.

    Sounds like you are breaking it in right, full load of goodies, good luck my friend.

  14. Mine does the same thing.  I just got it for Christmas and have only used it 3 or 4 times. My theory is that the wood is at combustion temperature and just lacks enough oxygen to get a flame going.  I think if it gets enough O2 through either the chip loader getting opened or a draft helping get a little more O2 reach the chips you get a mini-explosion. Mine actually farted a flame at one point.   I would think that reducing the amount of chips would help but it might just be too tight in terms of airflow.  Maybe it needs a little more leakage???? 

  15. Add a chimney pipe to your top vent.

    That will drastically improve your draft.

    I wouldn't add any "leakage".
  16. hoity toit

    hoity toit Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Mine did the same thing the first time I used it. I was curious and was messing around openeing the door to look, then I closed the door and slid the chip loader out and it like "backfired" and scared the hell out of me. After that I learned to closed the door set the damper and dont peek. It hasn't happened since.

  17. When mine does that, I pull the chip loader out some to create the proper draft.

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  18. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    Thanks guys...The whole thing settled down after awhile and putting in less chips seemed to help... I had the Mav probe near the back of the middle shelf. Maybe the Chips were igniting causing the Temp spike...Sure is fun learning the Quirks of this thing but the Flames scared the hell out of me...JJ
  19. yeah I have only seen mine do that twice, it always seemed to stop after the big puff, only ever had it do that on higher temps, and I wonder if soaking the ships might help deter that?
  20. venture

    venture Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Jimmy did you taste your jalapenos?  Maybe they are too hot for your smoker?

    Good luck and good smoking.

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