Brisket - Simplified and Reliable Dinner Timing

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I had an elderly wife and husband chase me down at the GS last week wanting to ask a question because they saw the brisket in my cart….. they explained they won a traeger at bingo and they wanted to do brisket…..so the wife and me had a real nice cooking lesson about cooking brisket, the wife was carefully taking notes while the husband was just grinning ear to ear……….

So that got me thinking I should do a post to share “a” way for smokers to have reliable and consistent brisket in a simple way, similar to the one I did for pulled pork (see below)….this method is very similar
https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t...simplified-and-reliable-dinner-timing.325427/

So step one is if you can get a point cut that is the best place to start….this one is a nice 12lbs
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If you can’t get a point cut or you want to do a full packer this method will also work….


Step 2 trim to a 1/4” and it’s ok if you trim a few spots to the flesh…..ie cause once it’s trimmed dress it with salt for a dry brine. The min time to cure is 24 to 36 hours or up to 48 hours which is ideal it the cut is 5 inches thick or more…place it open air in the fridge.

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Save all the fat and cut it into small pieces and then save in a foil pan.
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Here is the result after 32 ish hours of curing….
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So the day of smoking…..I started prepping at 7:30 am tuning in the smoker and then seasoning up the point…..this is my 5 spice rub but any of your fav rub will work….
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Time to put the point on the RT…..it was a brisk morning….
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Running the RT 1250 @ 265….
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In it goes along with the diced trimmed fat cap….
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Progress check 4 hours in….
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It has warmed up but still brisk….
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Looking good…..the crust is forming up nicely and fat is rendering good….
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So my rule is that you run the brisket @ 265 for 5-6 hours regardless of INT…. You are looking for bark development vs INT. As the INT will take care of its self in fact with this method there is no need to have a INT till after 5 hours in……so now we let it ride for another hour….

5 hours in…..
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The crust is looking good so time to foil boat right in the rendered fat pan and baste…..5 hours @ 265 will create a deep crust!
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I use a small measuring cup to baste it for several minutes, ie just like a pan seared steak….

All wrapped up and back in the smoker at 265….
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So just like the pulled pork method, once coved the brisket will hit an INT of 198-200 in 90 to 120 mins….Ive never had one take more than 140 mins typical is 100min…..

So remember this was a 12lb point…..that’s a pretty big one….and it was just under the two hours to a INT of 200….
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Still brisk!
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Here is a peak……oh man yes. Now note that I set my notification to 200, this gives me an alarm a INT 195 and this is when I start probing for tenderness…..the best tool I have found for this is a bamboo bbq skewer…..if it takes effort or there is resistance then I needs more time…..next test is at INT 198……..followed by 200….. it’s done when the skewer can be pushed through with just a little bit of resistance and it giggles like jello….. I find that a 200 INT is the most consistent temp to a nice texture slice
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Once tender cover it back up and pull it.

The next step is the hold, if you have an oven with a warming feature place it in a 140-165 to hold till dinner. To get an ideal texture you want to hold it for 2 hours after you pull it. If your oven doesn’t go that low you can wrap in a towel or two or just cycle your oven to get warm then of again, it will only need a few cycles…..

We had dinner at 6:30 so this one held in the oven till then…..and now the slicing…..
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The bend test….
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Once sliced I transfer it to another foil pan (ps I get these in bulk from Amazon (50 cents each)…and once transferred I dress the slices with the rendered fat/tallow and make sure I get some of the dark colored gold at the bottom of the pan….this is a money maker….now if you didn’t dry brine it you can sprinkle the slices with some salt at this point as well….
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Close up…..
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Tonight was a simple plate……just some box mac and a slice, ie I said this was brisket made simple….
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So, in summary:
Pre cook prep:
36 hours prior, trim and salt for dry brine…..
Cook day:
7:20-7:30 Prep smoker chamber temp 265 and rub dress the brisket:
8:00 put the brisket and diced fat trimmings into the smoker
1:00 to 2:00 place in the foil boat, baste with rendered tallow/fat and cover (not tight against the brisket) and back in the smoker….
2:45 to 3:00 @ 195 start to test for tenderness and giggle…second test 198, third 200….. ( if you do a full packer focus on the point as the flat will take care of its self during the hold….
3:00 to 5:00 hold @ 145……
5:00 to dinner hold…..
Dinner: Slice and dress with rendered tallow & serve!

This method is very reliable in both tenderness and timing and will make your brisket cooking stress free and full of sleep……ie as long as the brisket goes on by 9am it’s ready for dinner every time….. 😎
 
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Nice write up . I've got my method down to a sure thing also . No more waiting to eat .
I do 2 ways , smoker finish , oven hold , or smoke , then force finish in the oven , counter top rest .
Replicated 5 times with the same results .
Makes doing brisket more fun .
 
Nice how to , for those ( me ) that really have not done a brisket yet.
Thanks

David
Thanks David and it’s an easy cook if you approach it that way…..and it makes a table spread!
Nice write up . I've got my method down to a sure thing also . No more waiting to eat .
I do 2 ways , smoker finish , oven hold , or smoke , then force finish in the oven , counter top rest .
Replicated 5 times with the same results .
Makes doing brisket more fun .
Thanks chop, and the no more waiting is the key here…..dinner should be like going into the bbq joint and saying I want 2 slices of brisket…..no is it done yet and falling asleep at the dinner table….
Perfection! That pic of slices in the foil pan makes my mouth water. Just beautiful.
Thanks texo! Yea the foil pan presentation means BBQ all the way!
 
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if you do a full packer focus on the point
I missed this the first time through . Amen to that . I always see guys talk about temping the flat .
Probing the flat . I've never done that . I always temp and go by the point end .

..no is it done yet and falling asleep at the dinner table….
Or stress on the cook .
 
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I missed this the first time through . Amen to that . I always see guys talk about temping the flat .
Probing the flat . I've never done that . I always temp and go by the point end .


Or stress on the cook .
The point is the whole point!!! When foil boated the flat will normalize in temp and benefit from the tallow braising, which is further helped in the rest…..lastly since the center of the flat isn’t full of fat like the point so it needs help…..the dressing of rendered tallow after the slicing is the game changing help the flat needs…..

Oh yea no stress cooking makes it fun vs a pizza night in silence….lol.

Edit…..just think about the flat being slowly braised in q flavored tallow for 4-6 hours…… that makes money!
 
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Leftover time!!!!

First up some fried smashed baby spuds.....garlic & fresh herbs, seared in tallow and butter....
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Cucumber and red pepper dill pickled salad....
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Now the reheated plate. I stored the leftovers in a foil pan then put a little kinders gold sauce over the slices than covered and in the oven at 325.....pulled the cover when they hit 150 and the low broil to set the sauce and pulled and a reheat temp of INT 165 (about 35-40 mins worth of oven time)...... was joined by some butter and fresh herb mini French bread loaf slices...
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Leftover Money shot!
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Awesome tutorial! Thank you and I’d join your table anytime to eat!
 
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Nice how to , for those ( me ) that really have not done a brisket yet.
Thanks

David
With all the deliciousness you post I'm astounded you haven't
Nice write up . I've got my method down to a sure thing also . No more waiting to eat .
I do 2 ways , smoker finish , oven hold , or smoke , then force finish in the oven , counter top rest .
Replicated 5 times with the same results .
Makes doing brisket more fun .
I thought I finally had them down pat but did one last week that was awful. Did the same process I always do at 275F , wrapped in pan with liquid at stall, finished at 205F and rested an hour in the Cambro. Turned out tough and dry. I'm chasing it up to a bad piece of meat as the last few were jiggly delicious
 
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I had an elderly wife and husband chase me down at the GS last week wanting to ask a question because they saw the brisket in my cart….. they explained they won a traeger at bingo and they wanted to do brisket…..so the wife and me had a real nice cooking lesson about cooking brisket, the wife was carefully taking notes while the husband was just grinning ear to ear……….

So that got me thinking I should do a post to share “a” way for smokers to have reliable and consistent brisket in a simple way, similar to the one I did for pulled pork (see below)….this method is very similar
https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t...simplified-and-reliable-dinner-timing.325427/
https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t...simplified-and-reliable-dinner-timing.325427/

So step one is if you can get a point cut that is the best place to start….this one is a nice 12lbs
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If you can’t get a point cut or you want to do a full packer this method will also work….


Step 2 trim to a 1/4” and it’s ok if you trim a few spots to the flesh…..ie cause once it’s trimmed dress it with salt for a dry brine. The min time to cure is 24 to 36 hours or up to 48 hours which is ideal it the cut is 5 inches thick or more…place it open air in the fridge.

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Save all the fat and cut it into small pieces and then save in a foil pan.
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Here is the result after 32 ish hours of curing….
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So the day of smoking…..I started prepping at 7:30 am tuning in the smoker and then seasoning up the point…..this is my 5 spice rub but any of your fav rub will work….
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Time to put the point on the RT…..it was a brisk morning….
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Running the RT 1250 @ 265….
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In it goes along with the diced trimmed fat cap….
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Progress check 4 hours in….
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It has warmed up but still brisk….
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Looking good…..the crust is forming up nicely and fat is rendering good….
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So my rule is that you run the brisket @ 265 for 5-6 hours regardless of INT…. You are looking for bark development vs INT. As the INT will take care of its self in fact with this method there is no need to have a INT till after 5 hours in……so now we let it ride for another hour….

5 hours in…..
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The crust is looking good so time to foil boat right in the rendered fat pan and baste…..5 hours @ 265 will create a deep crust!
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I use a small measuring cup to baste it for several minutes, ie just like a pan seared steak….

All wrapped up and back in the smoker at 265….
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So just like the pulled pork method, once coved the brisket will hit an INT of 198-200 in 90 to 120 mins….Ive never had one take more than 140 mins typical is 100min…..

So remember this was a 12lb point…..that’s a pretty big one….and it was just under the two hours to a INT of 200….View attachment 716155
Still brisk!
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Here is a peak……oh man yes. Now note that I set my notification to 200, this gives me an alarm a INT 195 and this is when I start probing for tenderness…..the best tool I have found for this is a bamboo bbq skewer…..if it takes effort or there is resistance then I needs more time…..next test is at INT 198……..followed by 200….. it’s done when the skewer can be pushed through with just a little bit of resistance and it giggles like jello….. I find that a 200 INT is the most consistent temp to a nice texture slice
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Once tender cover it back up and pull it.

The next step is the hold, if you have an oven with a warming feature place it in a 140-165 to hold till dinner. To get an ideal texture you want to hold it for 2 hours after you pull it. If your oven doesn’t go that low you can wrap in a towel or two or just cycle your oven to get warm then of again, it will only need a few cycles…..

We had dinner at 6:30 so this one held in the oven till then…..and now the slicing…..
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The bend test….
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Once sliced I transfer it to another foil pan (ps I get these in bulk from Amazon (50 cents each)…and once transferred I dress the slices with the rendered fat/tallow and make sure I get some of the dark colored gold at the bottom of the pan….this is a money maker….now if you didn’t dry brine it you can sprinkle the slices with some salt at this point as well….
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Close up…..
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Tonight was a simple plate……just some box mac and a slice, ie I said this was brisket made simple….
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So, in summary:
Pre cook prep:
36 hours prior, trim and salt for dry brine…..
Cook day:
7:20-7:30 Prep smoker chamber temp 265 and rub dress the brisket:
8:00 put the brisket and diced fat trimmings into the smoker
1:00 to 2:00 place in the foil boat, baste with rendered tallow/fat and cover (not tight against the brisket) and back in the smoker….
2:45 to 3:00 @ 195 start to test for tenderness and giggle…second test 198, third 200….. ( if you do a full packer focus on the point as the flat will take care of its self during the hold….
3:00 to 5:00 hold @ 145……
5:00 to dinner hold…..
Dinner: Slice and dress with rendered tallow & serve!

This method is very reliable in both tenderness and timing and will make your brisket cooking stress free and full of sleep……ie as long as the brisket goes on by 9am it’s ready for dinner every time….. 😎
Man that is money! Sides all look great too
 
Great tutorial! It will come in handy for many people! But I will have to say one thing... I want to live where you do... in this pic it says it's 25 but feels like 32... that never happens here in Iowa lol!

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You must be living right!

Ryan
 
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David, smoked brisket left overs freeze very well. Only two of us here as well but I always do a full packer. After a great meal all of the remaining gets portioned out, vacuumed packed then into the freezer. BTW: I make a few of those portions in the amount needed to later dice up and use in smoked brisket chili which is exceptionally good.
 
Great writeup, You make it look easy. I've been a little hesatant to jump into a brisket. Got one in the freezer I may have to go ahead and take the plunge.
 
Awesome tutorial! Thank you and I’d join your table anytime to eat!
Many thanks Ish! Brisket "made me nervous" for many years but once I decided to just take the food service approach it became a very fun easy cook!
With all the deliciousness you post I'm astounded you haven't

I thought I finally had them down pat but did one last week that was awful. Did the same process I always do at 275F , wrapped in pan with liquid at stall, finished at 205F and rested an hour in the Cambro. Turned out tough and dry. I'm chasing it up to a bad piece of meat as the last few were jiggly delicious
Well sometimes a bad cut is a bad cut.... but 205 is getting to pulled temp, i've never taken brisket above 200 INT.....
Man that is money! Sides all look great too
Thanks Jcam!
I know , me also. It was a lot of meat for just the 2 of us , but now that the rest of Mona's family ( only 2 more lol ) live with us maybe I should.
But being on here I have now cooked/ smoked a couple things I have never cooked before.

David
You need to try it and it makes some good left overs....ie pan seared brisket and eggs, copped brisket sandwich for lunch, or brisket stir fry for dinner.....I mean it goes with just about anything.... Vac Seal meal portions and bingo.....
 
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Great tutorial! It will come in handy for many people! But I will have to say one thing... I want to live where you do... in this pic it says it's 25 but feels like 32... that never happens here in Iowa lol!

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You must be living right!

Ryan
Thanks Ryan and Yea its usually the other way here on the temp.....Spring is actually becoming a thought now.....Oh and glad I could share.....I like to keep things simple and repeatably consistent....This is the 6th straight brisket point I have done this way over the past 4 months dialing in the rub..... Just money every time. I will not that I do sort through the points a the store to get one with nice marbling..... I should have added that's the benefit of a point is you get to see the marbling in the cut and then and educated idea on texture and flavor....
David, smoked brisket left overs freeze very well. Only two of us here as well but I always do a full packer. After a great meal all of the remaining gets portioned out, vacuumed packed then into the freezer. BTW: I make a few of those portions in the amount needed to later dice up and use in smoked brisket chili which is exceptionally good.
Yes this!!!! We usually eat it for 3-4 days or we freeze for later as above.....
Great writeup, You make it look easy. I've been a little hesatant to jump into a brisket. Got one in the freezer I may have to go ahead and take the plunge.
Thanks, and it "can be easy" if you approach it that way! It's easier than making burgers at home in my book!.....and the only way you learn is by doing!!!! ie since I make knifes on the side one of my favorite Master Smith quotes is from Jason Knight.... "you will never make a knife by watching ytube....you make a knife by being in the shop making it".....
 
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