• Some of the links on this forum allow SMF, at no cost to you, to earn a small commission when you click through and make a purchase. Let me know if you have any questions about this.

Grinding twice? Why & When!

rw willy

Smoking Fanatic
OTBS Member
796
66
Joined Feb 7, 2008
I'm starting my trip into the world of sausage!

So, one of the more elusive topics I've looked into is grinding twice.  Is there a rule of thumb?  Should it be done only if going down to a small plate size. 1/8" etc?  Or grind twice for any plate size changes? 

Another issue is when to season?  After all grinding or before?  I get that if I use pink salt I would mix that w/water and mix in after grinding.

And is beer interchangeable with water @ 1 to 1?   Or is there a max beer amount to lbs. of mix?

I hope to start posting pics prior to Christmas.  I have just motorized a #22 and am rejuvenating an Enterprise #25.

Can't wait!  Thanks
 

crankybuzzard

Smoking Guru
Staff member
Moderator
OTBS Member
SMF Premier Member
5,245
2,108
Joined Jan 4, 2014
I'm starting my trip into the world of sausage!
So, one of the more elusive topics I've looked into is grinding twice.  Is there a rule of thumb?  Should it be done only if going down to a small plate size. 1/8" etc?  Or grind twice for any plate size changes? 
Another issue is when to season?  After all grinding or before?  I get that if I use pink salt I would mix that w/water and mix in after grinding.
And is beer interchangeable with water @ 1 to 1?   Or is there a max beer amount to lbs. of mix?
I hope to start posting pics prior to Christmas.  I have just motorized a #22 and am rejuvenating an Enterprise #25.
Can't wait!  Thanks
Welcome to the madness!

Typically grinding twice is to get close to emulsified, but sometimes it's to prep the meat for the small plate. Some grinders don't like you you try and go straight to the 1/8. Yours will probably be fine.

Some season and add cure after they chunk up the meat and then grind it all in together, others add the seasoning and cure to a liquid and pour it in while mixing.

Beer and wine can be used, but I hesitate to say it's a 1:1 ratio as water. Experimentation will be your guide here unless you're using a known recipe from a known source.

LOTS of sausage making knowledge in this group, feel free to ask questions.
 

myownidaho

Master of the Pit
SMF Premier Member
1,901
679
Joined Nov 27, 2016
What Cranky said. Twice grind gives you a better bind and texture. It doesn't have to be just for grinding smaller on the second pass. As for pink salt, mix it with the salt and toss it with the chunked meat the night before for a better bind.

Get ready for lots of personal feeling and opinions on making sausage, and then find your own way!
 

dirtsailor2003

Epic Pitmaster
OTBS Member
21,606
3,322
Joined Oct 4, 2012
Keep in mind not all sausage needs to be double ground, or even need to "bind".

Many of the sausages I prefer are hand cut, with a small portion of course ground meat added to help "bind" it together.

Even our breakfast sausage we only do a course grind on.
 

worktogthr

Master of the Pit
OTBS Member
SMF Premier Member
2,928
1,029
Joined Nov 3, 2013
I have been only making sausage for a couple of years now, but like everything else, I do it obsessively.  I never double grind anything and get good, consistent results. Tried it when I was first starting but didn't see the actual benefit.   Not saying that there is anything bad about it, I just don't see the necessity of it.  To me, the most important things I have learned about sausage making are:

1.  Cube up your meat and then stick it on a sheet pan in the freezer until partially frozen before grinding.

2.  Keep everything clean and cold throughout the whole process

3.  The texture of the final product depends greatly on the mixing.  I usually mix 2-3 minutes until the meat gets really tacky/sticky.  I do the palm of your hand test.  Stick a breakfast sausage sized patty to your palm, face your palm down and the meat should stick without falling off your hand.  I do a couple of karate chops to make sure its really sticky!

4.  Soak your casings for a few days before stuffing.  Will make it easier to get them on the stuffing tube and less prone to blow outs.

Can't wait to see some of your creations! Have fun with the new hobby...soon you'll be making all your favorite dishes into sausage!

-Chris
 

rw willy

Smoking Fanatic
OTBS Member
796
66
Joined Feb 7, 2008
Thanks for the replies.  I look forward to getting the stuffer finished and getting guts filled.  Will keep everyone posted.
 

Latest posts

Hot Threads

Top Bottom
  AdBlock Detected

We noticed that you're using an ad-blocker, which could block some critical website features. For the best possible site experience please take a moment to disable your AdBlocker.