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Good morning... not so good evening.

Discussion in 'Pork' started by jager, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. jager

    jager Newbie

    Just put my first butt in the smoker for some pulled pork tonight!  I'm excited.  :)

  2. SmokinAl

    SmokinAl SMF Hall of Fame Pitmaster Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Good start! Looking forward to the $ shot.
  3. les3176

    les3176 Master of the Pit

    Lookin great so far.... keep us updated!!! can't wait for more!
  4. jager

    jager Newbie

    Just smoking and spraying now.  :)  I'll post a pic of my sammich before I eat it.  Really owe a big thanks to you guys for the rub and steps!!  :D
  5. jager

    jager Newbie

    I need some help.

    For the past three hourse it has been stuck at 145 or so.  I fear that my smoker is too cold.  It is extremely cold outside and while it is producing smoke and making a bark on my meat, the internal temp isn't very high (I have a themometer in there now reading it).  The element doesn't have a temp control.

    Should I just pull it out and put it wrapped in the oven to finish cooking it?  It's been 10 hours for a 6 lb butt.

  6. raptor700

    raptor700 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    What temp is your smoker running at?

    You could pull and put in the oven if you need to
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2011
  7. jager

    jager Newbie

    It's barely pushing 200.  Would a picture of it help?  Thanks for the reply!
  8. raptor700

    raptor700 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    another concern is the 40-140 rule.

     If it's been smoking for 10hrs, did the internal temp get to 140º in the 4hr range? 
  9. jager

    jager Newbie

    What's the 40-140 rule?
  10. raptor700

    raptor700 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    200º is to low, if you can't get the temp up you might have to go the oven route

    Pics are always great [​IMG]
  11. Yeah, you might just have to plug it into your oven. If you had a welder's blanket you could insulate your smoker with that being it is so cold.
  12. jager

    jager Newbie

    Okay, I'm going to wrap it and put it in the oven at 250.  But what is the 40-140 rule?  Please don't tell me to scrap my dinner.  [​IMG]
  13. raptor700

    raptor700 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

      The 40-140 rule is getting the internal temp of any meat that has been injected or probed.. to 140º in a 4hr period.

    The exception to the rule is if  you havn't did any of those things, including inserting a meat temp probe into the meat you only have to get the outer ½in of the meat to 140º then you can insert your probe and smoke a longer period.

    you can check the wiki section and get a more clearer explanation of this.

    hope this helps
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2011
  14. Bearcarver

    Bearcarver SMF Hall of Fame Pitmaster Group Lead OTBS Member

    I don't know all the particulars, but I have to agree with Raptor.

    If you were at 145˚ from the 7th hour to the 10th hour, when did you get to 140˚, or even 135˚?

    The Danger zone rule says you have to get from 40˚ to 140˚ (maybe changed to 135˚ now) in no longer than 4 hours, if you break the seal of the whole meat muscle.

    We can see you had the probe in at the start, which means the seal was broken.

  15. jager

    jager Newbie

    Well folks.... it's trash.  I took it out of the smoker and used a different themometer and the dang thing isn't 140 yet.  My digi themometer (with the probe and wire) didn't work and so I just used a meat themometer and left it in the smoker.... not smart I guess.  It was reading the internal temp of the smoker not just the meat.

    Well that is very very very dissapointing.  I'm all depressed and stuff now.  :(  Ugh.  The smoker just can't handle the cold I guess.  It was 250 before I put the meat in, but maybe with the meat, water, and cold it couldn't hack it.  And I wasn't able to crank the temp to compensate. 

    Bloody hell.
  16. mballi3011

    mballi3011 Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member SMF Premier Member


    If you were at 145° you will be fine with that temp because thats an internal temp and you have to make sure the the outer 1" or so is above 140° anyway. Now I would also take the butt out and put it into the oven to finish it up there.
  17. jager

    jager Newbie

    But what about the 40-140?  I don't think it hit 140 in four hours.
  18. raptor700

    raptor700 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Don't throw it out yet

    Do you have it in the oven?
  19. scarbelly

    scarbelly Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member

    Better safe than sorry on that rule. That is one I NEVER play with .
  20. raptor700

    raptor700 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Is it possible that the internal temp got above 140º and then dropped when the smoker temp cooled down?