Amazin Cheese Question

Discussion in 'Cheese' started by coachrem12, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. Hello everyone... new poster, long time reader. 

    I received Todd's Amazin Smoker for Christmas, and have used it twice to smoke cheese... the smoker has worked wonders, if anyone else is thinking of cold smoking, just BUY ONE, it's worth it.

    Anyway-- my question is this: every time (once before I had the Amazin, twice since I've gotten it) I have smoked cheese (Gouda, Cheddar, and White Cheddar), I have gotten a "funny" taste with it... almost a plastic flavor with it... I've read many posts about letting it "age" in the back of the fridge, etc., watching temps, and everything...

    My standard setup is run the Amazin for 2-3 hours using Hickory dust and monitor the temps (consistently between 65-80 F), then pull the cheese off.  It's definitely smoky-- I can smell the smoke even through the plastic bags I end up wrapping it in-- but there is just an off flavor.

    Any suggestions or thoughts?

    Thanks for the time.

    Kevin in Grand Rapids MI
     
  2. Take the cheese out of the package b4 you smoke it..... LOL

    I'm just kidding I have used the AMZN twice for cheese now and have not noticed any bad flavors, once with the AMZN dust and once with some other dust, the AMZN dust cheese seemed like it had a stronger flavor , both were hickory, but the AMZN dust has a finer texture, do you think it had too much smoke flavor?
     
  3. Hey coachrem12, I use the AMNPS (not the AMZN) for cold smoking cheese quite often.  Like Harry mentions, I've never gotten any off flavors... but I typically use apple and/or maple pellets - not dust... I find hickory a bit strong for cheese but that's just my VHO.  I'm wondering if it's the hickory 'bite' that you're tasting?  Also, are you using Todd's dust or something else?

    Also, you really need to let smoked cheese age in the fridge for at least 2 weeks -either in a vac pack or tightly wrapped with plastic wrap - before tasting it.  If you eat/taste it right out of the smoker it really tastes... well.. bad....

    The other thing that I wanted to mention is what have you smoked in your smoker prior to your cheese?  Could it be carry-over taste/smell that's affecting your cheese?

    -Salt
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2012
  4. scarbelly

    scarbelly Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    The key here is letting the cheese age for at least 2 weeks before eating it. Right out of the smoker and for a few days after, it is going to have that bitter taste you are referring to. I also agree on using milder woods. I smoke a LOT of cheese and my go to woods are a pecan / apple mix  
     
  5. whittling chip

    whittling chip Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    The first time I smoked cheddar cheese with hickory pellets it smelled very strong to me. The taste bite was even bitter. Two weeks later we ate most of the cheese and it was fantastic....so we thought. We had left behind one block that we shreaded over my wife's home made enchiladas. The cheese had set for two and a half months. OH MY GOD IS WAS UNBELIEVABLE.

    Pics or it didn't happen:

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    Oh yea, it happened.
     
  6. rdknb

    rdknb Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Same as all have said, let it sit.  I try to let it sit 3 or 4 weeks. 
     
  7. mballi3011

    mballi3011 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

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    Just a couple of things here. First Welcome to SMF there Kevin. Then would swing into Roll Call and introduce yourself and we can give you the proper welcome that we like to give to new members. Next make sure you take the wrapper off like Casino said. Then you have to let your cheese rest for atleast 2 weeks before it starts to taste anywhere near good longer if you can wait.
     
  8. Just posted in the Roll Call.  Sorry about that.

    I've let the cheese sit in plastic for 2.5 weeks-- it will be 3 weeks this saturday.  The Gouda has definitely mellowed, as has the White Cheddar, but the regular cheddar still has an "oversmoked" taste.  Could be that it's TOO smoky, as some mentioned... and I guess it could be that Hickory is a little stronger than I should use for the first smoke.

    I AM using Todd's dust, by the way... and other than the cheese, I haven't smoked in a couple months (what a shame!).  Don't think that the residue is the problem.

    Anyway, thanks for the feedback.  Very helpful.

    Kevin in Grand Rapids, MI
     
  9. It must age. I like 4 weeks.
     
  10. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Hickory is a little strong for me on cheese, but some guys really like it.

    Just a personal preference

    I smoke with Apple sawdust for about 2 hours, as we like a hint of smoke on our cheese.

    Did you light both ends?

    What smoker are you using it in?

    I also found an old package of smoked cheddar in the fridge, that was 4 months old.  The flavor was fantastic!

    Todd
     
  11. I like mine smoked with hickory and have had no complaints only compliments
     
  12. pops6927

    pops6927 Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Age?  I have three big Rats in my fridge and they nibble nibble nibble.... The Head Rat moreso than the two Son Rats... however I did miss a piece of sharp cheddar I'd let sit for about 6 months and get all moldy... even the mold was smokey!
     
  13. sam3

    sam3 Smoking Fanatic

    I smoked two batches of cheese three weeks ago with the AMZNPS using a combination of Oak & Cherry. Cheddar, Gouda, Muenster, Havarti, etc.

    I'm going to wait another three weeks (six weeks total) and break one package out. I'll post how it came out using this combination of pellets.
     
  14. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    The longer it ages the better it tastes!
     
  15. eman

    eman Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member

    Try mixing 2/3 apple w/ 1/3 hickory and smoke away.
     
  16. Peach is really good with cheese. I found hickory to be a tad strong for cheese.
     
  17. Thanks for all the tips and tricks, everyone.  I went back and ate the last bit of the Cheddar after ANOTHER three weeks or so, and it had definitely mellowed.  Still wasn't the best, but, better.  Then I tried using some pecan wood chips that I found... much lighter flavor, much better, and I didn't have to let it age half as long.

    Next time, I will try taking pics and posting.  You all do a much better job than I do at that!

    KR
     
  18. puddy

    puddy Smoke Blower

    I just did a batch last Saturday and used 1/3 hickory, 1/3 maple, and 1/3 cherry. The string cheese was great and tonight we're having the fresh Mozzarella on Chicken Parm. 
     
  19. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    I have 11 days, so far, on my first Cheese smoke. 3 hours with Hickory pellets, the wait SUCKS!...JJ
     
  20. puddy

    puddy Smoke Blower

    For what its worth that Chicken Parm with the smoked Moz was delicious and the smoke added a note that made me feel like i was eating grilled food rather than pan fried chicken. The plus side with Moz is you don't have to wait for 2 weeks to use it you only have to wait a day or so.
     

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