what's the "cure"

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bob b que

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                   So aside from shelf life, is there any advantage to cured jerky VS uncured,

     And am I the only one who likes a little well cooked fat with on my jerky slice? Everyone seems to be all about super lean cuts. Finally, what's a good cut of beef for achieving this?
 
Bob, evening... Cure #1 (sodium nitrite 6.25% in salt) prevents botulism when smoking meat in a low oxygen environment...  changes the flavor a bit.... not sure which way the flavor is changed.... never did a side by side....    If you thoroughly "cook" the jerky there's no need for cure....    Most folks use a very lean, no fat cut of meat like "round" so there's no fat to spoil/sour....

Dave
 
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Bob, evening... Cure #1 (sodium nitrite 6.25% in salt) prevents botulism when smoking meat in a low oxygen environment...  changes the flavor a bit.... not sure which way the flavor is changed.... never did a side by side....    If you thoroughly "cook" the jerky there's no need for cure....    Most folks use a very lean, no fat cut of meat like "round" so there's no fat to spoil/sour....

Dave
once again, Dave you have answered my question perfectly. would cure #1 be like Mortons curing salt? Will the cure stop the fat from spoiling?
 
once again, Dave you have answered my question perfectly. would cure #1 be like Mortons curing salt? Will the cure stop the fat from spoiling?
Bob, evening....  Morton's Tender Quick has nitrate and nitrite in it..   It is designed for long term curing like hams, or Italian dry salami that hang for months in a curing chamber type setting.....  It can be used for meats like jerky but it's salt content is really high to accommodate the long term curing processes....   Not much, that I'm aware of, will stop the fat from spoiling....  the high content salt may do that....  I'm just not up on stuff like that....  Eat it quick and you wont have a problem.... vac-pack and freeze will work also......

Dave
 
I would keep jerky refrigerated with cure or without cure. For long term storage I would vacuum seal........... The department of agraculture shut down these small jerky producers here in nc. You dont see a jar of jerky at the conveinent stores any more.. It must have the usda emblem on it to be sold...
 
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I see there is a Cure #1 and Cure #2.

What's the difference?

Thanks.
Here is a good explanation Nepas posted a while back that should clear it up for you...

CURES - Cures are used in sausage products for color and flavor development as well as retarding the development of bacteria in
the low temperature environment of smoked meats.
Salt and sugar both cure meat by osmosis. In addition to drawing the water from the food, they dehydrate and kill the bacteria that make food spoil. In general, though, use of the word "cure" refers to processing the meat with either sodium nitrite or sodium nitrate.
The primary and most important reason to use cures is to prevent BOTULISM POISONING (Food poisoning). It is very important that any kind of meat or sausage that will be cooked and smoked at low temperature be cured. To trigger botulism poisoning, the requirements are quite simple - lack of oxygen, the presence of moisture, and temperatures in range of 40-140° F. When smoking meats, the heat and smoke eliminates the oxygen. The meats have moisture and are traditionally smoked and cooked in the low ranges of 90 to 185° F. As you can see, these are ideal conditions for food poisoning if you don't use cures. There are two types of commercially used cures.

Prague Powder #1
Also called Insta-Cure and Modern Cure. Cures are used to prevent meats from spoiling when being cooked or smoked at low temperatures (under 200 degrees F). This cure is 1 part sodium nitrite (6.25%) and 16 parts salt (93.75%) and are combined and crystallized to assure even distribution. As the meat temperate rises during processing, the sodium nitrite changes to nitric oxide and starts to ‘gas out’ at about 130 degrees F. After the smoking /cooking process is complete only about 10-20% of the original nitrite remains. As the product is stored and later reheated for consumption, the decline of nitrite continues. 4 ounces of Prague powder #1 is required to cure 100 lbs of meat. A more typical measurement for home use is 1 level tsp per 5 lbs of meat. Mix with cold water, then mix into meat like you would mix seasonings into meat.

Prague Powder #2
Used to dry-cure products. Prague powder #2 is a mixture of 1 part sodium nitrite, .64 parts sodium nitrate and 16 parts salt. (1 oz. of sodium nitrite with .64 oz. of sodium nitrate to each lb. of salt.)
It is primarily used in dry-curing Use with products that do not require cooking, smoking, or refrigeration. This cure, which is sodium nitrate, acts like a time release, slowly breaking down into sodium nitrite, then into nitric oxide. This allows you to dry cure products that take much longer to cure. A cure with sodium nitrite would dissipate too quickly.
Use 1 oz. of cure for 25 lbs. of meat or 1 level teaspoon of cure for 5 lbs. of meat when mixing with meat.
When using a cure in a brine solution, follow a recipe.

EDIT: I was too slow 
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I see there is a Cure #1 and Cure #2.

What's the difference?

Thanks.
Cure #1 is Sodium Nitr(i)te and Salt it is fast acting. Used for Jerky, Sausage and Bacon. Stuff that will be cured and smoked with some heat added or if raw like Bacon will be refrigerated.

Cure#2 is Sodium Nitr(a)te and Salt it is slow acting. It uses the Time and Bacteria in and on meats that will be Dried above 40*F over a long period. The Bacteria or Culture is added to Salami, Pepperoni and such, to breakdown the Nitrate into Nitrite which does the curing over weeks or months.

They are NOT interchangeable!...JJ

Some folks Cut and Paste faster than I can type! Thanks B...
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Thanks for all the great help.

If I have a recipe that doesn’t not include cure #1 or Tender Quick, should I adjust the salt amounts?
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Thanks for all the great help.

If I have a recipe that doesn’t not include cure #1 or Tender Quick, should I adjust the salt amounts?
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Yes, if you go from cure #1 to TQ, I would eliminate all the salt that was in the cure #1 recipe.

If you go from TQ to cure #1, you will have to add salt to the cure #1. How much is up to you, but if you want to use the same amount as is in TQ, I would add enough salt to equal 90% of the TQ.

If that's hard to understand, let me know. I'm doing my best.

Bear
 
johnny, afternoon......    Cure #1 is added at a rate of approx. 1 tsp per 5# of meat.....     cut your salt that amount, to get back to the original recipe....

Dave
 
If the recipe says it will cure 25 #'s of meat, add 1 ounce of cure to it...  and you are good to go.....   1 oz of cure is used for 25#'s of meat...  1 tsp for 5 #'s.....   All you have to do is add Cure #1 to a seasoning package......  If the  package says "good for 5#'s of meat, add 1 tsp.....  BE SURE you write "cure added"  to the package and the amount you added......  

The amount of salt in cure #1 will not be noticeable when added to a seasoning mix......
 
Our formula for sodium nitrite is .04 oz per lb of meat for various weights under 25.
Hope that helps. we dont use it or view it as a preservative, but rather a saftey tool to prevent c-bot.
 
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