Sausage Smoking temp.

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There are plenty of Hippy Health Food rags with articles on how bad Nitrite is. Below is the other side of the story. Let your Mrs read them. A raw Spinach salad provides hundreds of times more Nitrite then eating 10 pounds of cooked Cured sausage like Kielbasa. The main reason, Nitrite dissipates when heated. While your Kielbasa or Hot Dogs, may start at 150ppm, after cooking, the residual Nitrite is tiny. Now for the REALLY SCARY STUFF...JJ

https://www.foodsafety.gov.mo/e/sense/detail.aspx?id=efd55ce0-dffd-4cb9-99ee-217177d9c70e

https://www.thespruceeats.com/sodium-nitrate-and-sodium-nitrite-facts-996129

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5412236/
 
Thank you Daveomak and Indaswamp. I understand the necessity of cure I am just trying to find the healthiest way to use it. Now if whole cuts do not require cure this opens a whole new perspective on smoking! Any suggestions on a basic recipe? What is the easiest cut to smoke? time, temperature etc.?
 
Thank you for the articles Chef Jimmy. I read two already and it helps to see nitrates in a different light. I will definitely show her the articles and hopefully get green light to use curing salts :) If not, it's going to be celery juice.
 
Always smoke Uncured Meat at 225°F or higher...JJ

From the USDA website on smoking meat...

To ensure meat and poultry are smoked safely, you'll need two types of thermometers: one for the food and one for the smoker. A thermometer is needed to monitor the air temperature in the smoker or grill to be sure the heat stays between 225 and 300 °F throughout the cooking process. Many smokers have built-in thermometers.

Use a food thermometer to determine the temperature of the meat or poultry. Oven-safe thermometers can be inserted in the meat and remain there during smoking. Use an instant-read thermometer after the meat is taken out of the smoker.

Cooking time depends on many factors: the type of meat, its size and shape, the distance of food from the heat, the temperature of the coals, and the weather. It can take anywhere from 4 to 8 hours to smoke meat or poultry, so it's imperative to use thermometers to monitor temperatures.

Smoke food to a safe minimal internal temperature.

  • Cook all raw beef, pork, lamb and veal steaks, chops, and roasts to a minimum internal temperature of 145 °F as measured with a food thermometer before removing meat from the heat source. For safety and quality, allow meat to rest for at least three minutes before carving or consuming. For reasons of personal preference, consumers may choose to cook meat to higher temperatures.
  • Cook all raw ground beef, pork, lamb, and veal to an internal temperature of 160 °F as measured with a food thermometer.
  • Cook all poultry to a safe minimum internal temperature of 165 °F as measured with a food thermometer.
 
Always smoke Uncured Meat at 225°F or higher...JJ

I am getting confused here. If I heat the smoker to 225-300 I think it will bake my cuts instead of smoking them. I also do not want fats melted. Please forgive my lack of understanding. Any help is appreciated.
 
No cure used (for sausage and ground meats) = must cook at a smoke chamber temp. of 225* or higher; must travel through the "danger zone of 40-140*F in less than 4 hours. These are the USDA rules for safety.
Whole primal cuts of meat (boston butt, brisket, steaks, etc...) can stay in the danger zone longer than 4 hours.
Whole cuts of beef (filet mignon, prime rib) can be cooked to rare and still be safe.
Whole cuts of pork must be cooked to at least 145*F to be safe.
Chickens and other poultry must be cooked to 165*F to be safe.

Somewhere on SMF there is a link to USDA food safe temps. Maybe Dave or Jimmyj can find it for you.

The cure is added to prevent botulism, which needs a warm, moist, oxygen free environment to grow; which happens when smoking meats.
 
Hot Smoking of uncured meat flavors the meat with smoke and cooks it, all the while maintaining a safe bacteria killing temp.
Cold Smoking, actually Cool smoking, takes place between 100 and 170°F. Animal fat melts between 130 and 140°F. At these temps fat melts slowly. At 180+ fat renders quickly and with sausage we experience Fat Out. This is the reason for not going over 170°F. Smoking at these low temps, in a reduced oxygen environment like a smoker, can lead to bacterial growth. Although once the surface temp exceeds 130°F the bacteria begin to die, deadly Toxins are produced, at lower temps, by some types of food borne bacteria that are not affected by heating. It is these Toxins that are of the biggest concern.
True Cold Smoking, like for Belly Bacon and Country Ham, takes place at an ambient temp, no heat generated, of 40° to 100°F for 12 hours to several days or weeks. These temps are the dead center of the bacterial growth Danger Zone and these meats Must be Cured with Nitrite or an internal salt content approaching 10%.

Don't confuse Hot Smoked meats like ribs, pulled pork, beef brisket and smoked Fresh (Uncured) Sausage like, Brats, Italian, Breakfast, etc, that are smoked AND cooked at the same time, with Cold (cool) Smoked CURED meats like Canadian Bacon, City Ham, Smoked Picnic Sholder, Disney Turkey Thighs and Cured Sausage, like Kielbasa, Smoked Country Sausage, Summer Sausage, Andouille and Portuguese Chourice. The latter group is smoked at 100 to 170°F to an Internal Temp of 145-155° and require no further cooking, unless you wish to heat them.
With Hot Smoking Sausage, some fat is rendered but with the short cooking time, 2 to 3 hours, it is limited as long as you start with 20 to 40% fat in the sausage to begin with. Other Hot Smoked meat, Pulled Pork, Ribs, etc, you WANT a good portion of fat to render so you don't end up with greasy meat. I hope this clears up the process for you...JJ
 
Thank you indaswamp and chef jimmyj,
I think I am most interested in "cool" smoking 100-170. I appreciate you clarifying these things for me. What cut of pork would you recommend to try?
 
Any cut that has been CURED! DaveOmak has a great Cured Picnic Ham recipe that works for City Ham, rear leg, as well. Search Canadian Bacon, another Cured pork cut. Ham on a Stick, Cured smoked pork ribs are delicious and easy. Cured Beef Brisket, aka Corned Beef, that is then Hot Smoked into Pastrami is a great choice. Then there are all the Cured Smoked Sausages.
Only follow recipes that are reputable. All our recipes at SMF have been peer reviewed for safety snd accuracy. Do not trust recipes on the web like Betty's Grandma's Smoked Sausage. There are many dangerous recipes out there. Curing and Cool smoking requires you FULLY understand the process and the dangers. If you plan to use Celery Juice...Do Your Homework on its use. SMF members don't recommend or trust the use of Celery Juice, so there is next to no info on its use here, sorry.
If you choose to Cool or Cold Smoke, anything, without some form of Nitrite Cure, you are taking a HUGE risk with the health of yourself and family.
Best of luck and feel free to keep asking questions. We are here to teach...And show off our smokers and food....JJ
 
Thank you indaswamp and chef jimmyj,
I think I am most interested in "cool" smoking 100-170. I appreciate you clarifying these things for me. What cut of pork would you recommend to try?


Hi Oleg!
I believe what Jimmy refers to as "Cool Smoke", I call "Warm Smoke", but we're both talking about the same thing.
Cured and smoked with some heat, but not enough heat to cook the fat out.
Below are a few Step by Steps of my "Warm Smoked" Items:
Bacon (Extra Smoky)
Buckboard Bacon (Step by Step)
*New------Canadian Bacon


Bear
 
Can't find the link either. Try sending Jeff a message or use this...JJ

To anyone who wants this collection, please e-mail me at [email protected] with your e-mail address and I'll gladly send it to you.
Jeff
 
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