Over cooking chicken wings, purposefully.

Discussion in 'Grilling Chicken' started by montanasmoke, May 22, 2014.

  1. Hi folks, :grilling_smilie:

    I did some searching over the last few days and haven't come across this topic so I figured I'd throw it out there!

    I'm a huge fan of America's test kitchen (check them out if you haven't) because of their trial and error and scientific approach to cooking and recipe building.

    Recently, I grilled some tandoori chicken wings on my GMG using their recipe. After watching their video I learned something interesting to solve the general problem of chicken wings being too ’chewy’.

    Here's a Q-view for fun :)


    They recommend cooking the chicken past the usual 165 degrees all the way to 180 degrees.

    Their logic is that collagen does not break down until 170 degrees. When you cook them past 170 degrees the collagen begins to melt and break down into gelatin, leaving the chicken much more tender and juicer.

    After trying this once I haven't looked back and will continue to cook my chicken wings to 180 degrees (unless, of course, I'm doing a simple breast or anything boneless).

    Has anyone out there heard of this technique? Any thoughts?
    Try and it let me know if you taste the difference I sure tasted!

    Cheers!

    :usa: :36:

    Anthony
     
  2. jp61

    jp61 Master of the Pit ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I like that show too and use to watch it often.

    [​IMG]  Everything they make, looks and tastes great, just like here!

    Will have to give that a try some day.
     
  3. venture

    venture Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I never thought about sticking a therm in wings?  Not much meat there to get a good reading.  Kinda like pork ribs.

    I miss that show.  We used to get it, but haven't found it for a while.

    Sometimes the show was a bit hokey, but they had some good recipes.  I always liked their product reviews.

    Good luck and good smoking.
     
  4. chestnutbloom

    chestnutbloom Smoking Fanatic

    I too enjoy "overcooking" my wings. I like to separate the drums from the flats and overcook the drums a little bit and the flats a lot. Oh they turn out so good!!    [​IMG]
     
  5. Yes. I agree on that. It works though. I just take some tongs and make sure I can see where I'm poking to get a good reading.
     
  6. What channel is the show on? Id like to check it out
     
  7. pops6927

    pops6927 Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    A wing place opened up next door to the RadioShack I managed, (called "The Wing Shack", company tried to sue them but it didn't hold up in court).  They deep-fried all their wings and would bring over 'test samples' for us to try, and would give us wing orders that were not picked up.  They would deep-fry their wings like french fries, then toss them in bowls with different sauces to coat them.  We actually preferred the wings crispy and slightly over-cooked, so they sold them that way and they were a big success!  A couple years later, the owner put his dad in charge and went off drilling gas wells (they were paying over $100/hour, he had an engineering degree, the wings were a 3 generation family business).  Within a year the dad went out of business, he baked the wings cuz he didn't like filtering and changing the oil.  And, he cut us off, which was just as well, the wings were bad and as business declined, half-rotten too.  When the owner first opened (he was in his 30's) we talked up his product, gave out free coupons he supplied for free wings 12-pc for every cell phone purchased and his business was booming!
     
  8. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I'm pretty sure I always over cook my wings and the full size drumsticks. One part if the chicken I really like charred.

    With that said I don't know how you can get a really good read anywhere in the wing to get a good temp using a probe style therm. Maybe a infrared therm could get ya close.

    Still have to say that Scarbelly style wings are the best! When done over high heat cooked to a crisp! Best flavor ever!
     
  9. sqwib

    sqwib Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I do the same with small chix.

    The rendering part is definitely great with wings, especially if you're the type that don't like your wings fatty.

    I have been doing wings with a Sous vide machine at 170° for 3 hours or so, then air dry overnight and deep fry for 4 minutes or so, best wings to date!



    Rendered fat, used for Wing Soup.


    Just did 30 pounds more a few weeks ago.


    My Home Made Sous Vide machine and a batch of wings that were cooked in the Sous Vide Machine and frozen to fry later.


    Cooking on a pit Low and Slow for a few hours and grill or deep fry works great too!

    Here's some drummettes that were cooked on the pit several hours that rendered nicely.

    Buffalo Drums on the left Bourbon Drums and Bites on the right.


    Thigh and Drum experiment.

    Dry ingredients were better than a slather.


     
  10. nc cue

    nc cue Fire Starter

    I'm a big fan of smoking them to 165-170, letting them cool off, then deep-frying them for a bit when people are ready to eat.
     

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