How much does the bone in a pork shoulder weigh?

Discussion in 'Pork' started by mummel, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    The actual bone itself, say in a average 5-7 lbs shoulder.  Curious.  Thanks.
     
  2. xray

    xray Smoking Fanatic

    Next time you make Pulled pork, weigh the scapula and you'll have your answer. The bone won't lose that much density when finished. You should make a contest out of it! Closest to guess the correct weight wins a prize!! Lol!
     
  3. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    I only get the Costco butts which are deboned.  Has anyone ever weighed the bone?
     
  4. mdboatbum

    mdboatbum Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    To answer the question I think you might really be asking, generally count on about a 55-60% yield when smoking pork butts. in other words, 5.5-6 pounds of pulled pork from a 10 pound butt.
    The bone is only part of the story. There is fat loss due to trimming as well as cooking, and overall moisture loss. But for what it's worth, I believe I did weigh a bone once and if i remember correctly it was just north of a pound.
     
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  5. xray

    xray Smoking Fanatic

    I never had a reason to weigh one. If you would like, I can weigh the scapula next time I make PP. I get bone-in butts for 1.49$ per lb. at Wegmans.

    The Scapula/shoulder blade is a very wide and flat bone. In a 9lb butt, it's weight could be measured in mere ounces. If you are wondering if it affects the price due to the weight, I would say theres minimal effect on the price.

    If the Glenohumeral joint was left intact, the head and neck of the humerus could add more weight therefore increasing price.
     
  6. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    Yeah Costco sells boneless butts for $1.89.  Wegmans sells bone-in butts for $1.49.  I'm trying to figure out which one offers better value.  Whats the breakeven point for bone-in butts so I know when I see a good deal.

    I'm guessing, but if the bone weighs less than 1.5 lbs on an average 7lb butt, then the Wegmans is the better deal right.  How's my math?
     
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  7. I recently got a 7 pound and a 10 pound and I would say the bones in each weighed more like 4-6 ounces.    Not much of a bone at all.    But I got mine from a different warehouse, Canada Costco's don't carry Butts.   At least not in my neck of the woods.
     
  8. mdboatbum

    mdboatbum Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I may be remembering wrong, or maybe I weighed it raw after de boning a butt for sausage. Getting feeble minded in my advancing years😄
    Ok, I've been pretty feeble minded all along. I just have more of an excuse as I get older.
     
  9. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    Someone must have done it at some point!?
     
  10. I don't think you were remembering wrong at all.     Your original post talked about the meat yeild and seemed pretty bang on to what I got out of mine.     I was just saying that the bones in my roasts barely weighed anything.    The big one came apart in two and I tossed it lightly in the trash with 2 fingers.    
     
  11. gpb11

    gpb11 Meat Mopper

    At those prices the bone has to be more than 20% of the total weight for the boneless to be a better deal.

    Since the bone won't be nearly that heavy, in this case go with the bone-in.

    Though to be honest, the cost of gasoline to go to one store vs another likely is more money than the difference in pork price...  :)
     
  12. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    Well it clearly seems that $1.49 / lb at Wegmans for a bone-in butt is a better deal given that the bone more than likely weighs less than 1.5lbs.
     
  13. I just hit a deal on some bone in at Safeway so grabbed two 10+lbs. going to cut them up in the next few days for sausage and will weigh them if that helps. when smoking PP shoulders I always use bone out . ya the bone can add flavor but I also think the bone cooks the meat internally and can throw the smoking timing off, (roasting perfect keep the bone) , Just My Thoughts (boy could this start an whole other discussion) LOL! as I remember I weighed some years back and they were minimal compared to fat trimmings .

    Good Smoking,

    Tom
     
  14. xray

    xray Smoking Fanatic

    A raw bone removed will weigh more just due to the connective tissue still attached to it, as opposed to a cooked butt where the bone is removed clean as a whistle

    ^This. His statement is right on the money.

    There's no way the scapula bone is 20% of the total weight, so the bone-in is a better deal IMHO.

    The extra cost of the boneless butt is probably from the extra work of deboning the shoulder. Also, some people swear the bone-in imparts more moisture and flavor.
     
  15. GaryHibbert

    GaryHibbert Smoking Guru OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Hey Cael

    A few weeks ago I bought a bone-in butt at Costco Edmonton.  They only had the pre-seasoned butts in a cryopak, but after I read all the ingredients, I figured it was real close to my rub.  I bought one and pulled it.  It was fantastic!!!!!  Cost about $20 for a 5.3 pounder.

    Gary
     
  16. Thanks Gary! Maybe just my Northwest location. Meat guy told me they never carry Butts. Good to know I can find them sometimes.

    I went to TGP (the Grocery People) on Yellowhead and got them for $2.99/lb. They sell them in a cryovac of 2 big ones just on the shelf. But they will do singles if you ask for them for the same price.

    Glad to know there is a good presasoned one at Costco for when I'm in a hurry. :)
     
  17. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    In my nexk of the woods the bone in is always the better bargain. As mentioned the bone doesn't weigh much. What you are paying for with the price in crease is the cost of the butcher removing the bone and if tied tying the roast. I buy mine two roasts to a cryo pack. Total weight is usually 18-19 pound. Here they never go below $2 a pound with the boneless hovering around 3.50-4.
     
  18. case

    is this from C&C? I want to say they have them on their hot sheet at least once a quarter for about $1.49 if I am not mistaken (might be more, will have to pay more attention) . that is when I snag a bunch and hit the freezer. they might be doing it as a loss leader cause the sale is for at most a two week period. if you do not get the hot sheets sent to you they are just inside the door. they change every two weeks and the sale starts on Mondays. there are many more things than on the sheet just look for little yellow tags

    tom
     
  19. boykjo

    boykjo Sausage maker Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    Bones can weigh up to a 1/2 lb  depending on their size..... Buy the bone in if the price is lower. Thats the best buy. I would be more concerned with the fat cap more than the bone. A good fat cap can weigh around 2 lbs which you may not want. As for sausage I look for a good fat cap

    My 2 cents

    Joe
     
  20. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    Thanks.  Yeah bone in looks like the way to go.  Costco doesnt have the fat cap.  Neither does Wegmans. 
     

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