Help Choosing a Gaming Computer - Purchase Made

[bmudd14474]

Good Choice with the RTX4070 in that box. Can't wait to see what you get yourself into with this unit.

 

[jcam222]

Congrats Brian! MSI builds a nice machine. When I was still traveling for work I games on a beast mode MSI Dragon laptop. My last desktop was also MSI. My current one is an Alienware with 3080 card and it's awesome. I haven't upgraded as for less than 4k gaming the 3080 runs everything I can throw at it. I will likely upgrade when I see a super deal on either a 4090 or 5090 card. Hoping to see some great deals around $2k on the 4090 systems when the 5090s roll out.

 

[crazymoon]

Thank You everyone including crazymoon and Chris_in_SoCal . Also a thanks to bmudd14474 to get me rolling. I have pulled the trigger on the one at best buy. This a big purchase for me.

IMHO , You won't regret you purchase!

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

IMHO , You won't regret you purchase!

Thanks for your help. Your post really helped. I still a little concern about power running everything but will see how it goes. Besides the avr and tv I running 4 subs plus the other regular stuff.

 

[Chris_in_SoCal]

The game I love the most purely for the graphics quality is Red Dead Redemption 2 on PC. It also has a great storyline. I am on my 6th play-through now.

I think you will be fine on a 20 amp circuit. I have overloaded my battery backups long before I tripped a circuit.

 

[jcam222]

The game I love the most purely for the graphics quality is Red Dead Redemption 2 on PC. It also has a great storyline. I am on my 6th play-through now.

I think you will be fine on a 20 amp circuit. I have overloaded my battery backups long before I tripped a circuit.

I was excited for it but have never been able to get into it. I think they made the keyboard and mouse controls overly complicated. Graphics and storyline are amazing. I really wish I could enjoy it.

 

[civilsmoker]

Congrats Brian! MSI builds a nice machine. When I was still traveling for work I games on a beast mode MSI Dragon laptop. My last desktop was also MSI. My current one is an Alienware with 3080 card and it's awesome. I haven't upgraded as for less than 4k gaming the 3080 runs everything I can throw at it. I will likely upgrade when I see a super deal on either a 4090 or 5090 card. Hoping to see some great deals around $2k on the 4090 systems when the 5090s roll out.

Our Alienware R12 tower has a 3060 Ti, 2T SSD, 64G Ram, i7 (it’s liquid cooled) and it does good but my sons Alienware LT has the 4090, 4T SSD, 64G ram, i9….OH MY SCREAMING!!!………jcam you will like the 4090…..

Brian you did good getting the 4070….4k is awesome. Your whole build has everything you need to game really good! Congrats it’s always fun getting a new box! We run the 4070 on my companies production CADD Dell LT workstations that set us back about 5500 each…..

 

[Chris_in_SoCal]

I was excited for it but have never been able to get into it. I think they made the keyboard and mouse controls overly complicated. Graphics and storyline are amazing. I really wish I could enjoy it.

You should really consider trying a controller. I have played it with mouse and keyboard before but like you said, it's complicated. You will quickly get the controls down and can enjoy the game more.

 

[paulgeorge]

A Roku is not doing any work to convert any video to one form to another. It is simply giving you what they have. I have two of them and they a great for what they do but they are just passing on what is available.

Video cards that are the best for high end gaming computers are the Nvidia and AMD Radion.

I am not a fan of AMD since my many years of working on computers the failure rate was about 10 times more than any intel board. That is just my personal experience. actividades para celebraciones con adolescentes

thank you so much for your suggestion

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

Boy I have had a hell of a day bringing this new computer up. First I bought a HDMI splitter so I could use both computers. Figured be easier to copy data. My old computer will not pass audio through the splitter. Than tried to bring new computer up and only got video for a few seconds. Had it going to avr. Tried hooking straight to tv and it would just flash off and on. After messing with it for long time it finally started working on input 4 on tv. Got updates done. Tried going back straight to avr and would not work. Finally hooked it up to the splitter and now it works. It will not work without using the splitter? This thing got me totally baffled! Refresh rate was only set to 30 so set it to 60hz. I ordered another splitter. All my HDMI on receiver full. Than moved on to trying to network both computers together with a crossover ethernet cable. Never got it to work. Just going to use external drive to transfer. It time for a drink and call it quits!

 

[Chris_in_SoCal]

I feel your pain. I have been upgrading all my computers to Windows 11. The last one for my garage CNC and laser is about 10 years old but is still a high end gaming PC so it has plenty of power for that. It does not have TPM2.0 built into it. TPM is needed to install Windows 11. I know there are ways around it now but would rather just use it and be done with it.

After opening it up I saw that the motherboard has a connector labeled TPM so I went on Amazon and ordered a TMP module. I got it a few days later and it was way too small. OK returned it and after counting the pins for the TPM I ordered the right one. I got it yesterday.

Then I had to update the BIOS so the TPM module would work. I finally had Windows 11 installed and working around 2am. Long night.

BrianGSDTexoma copying the data to an external drive is better anyway since you now have a backup of your data. Once you get the bugs worked out it will be worth it.

 

[Chris_in_SoCal]

OK, this is actually the last one. I just bought a mini PC that included Windows 11 on a deal I could not pass up. I still had to set it up. I bought this for my home theater so I can watch YouTube videos or whatever else from the couch on the 82" 4K TV.

In the picture is the Mini PC, a 4TB external drive with all the Blue ray and DVD's I have ripped. It has a wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse. This is my only concern is if the signal will work between the console and the couch (about 15 feet).

I will move it as soon as I have everything I want installed on it and see how it works.

 

[Chris_in_SoCal]

Just one more showing the playback of a ripped Blu ray disc on the 15" 1080p test monitor. This is just a cell phone screen capture so it does not show how great it truly looks in person. This little mini PC is not skipping a beat or loosing frames at all when playing 4K video even thru a portable 4TB USB drive.

This makes me very hopeful that it will work great in my home theater. I never considered doing this until I canceled DirecTv.

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

I feel your pain.

This going to take some time. Getting the HDMI issues worked out sucks! I ordered a Display Port to HMDI adapter, See how that works. I going to have to get a small monitor that will work with this computer. Not really sure what graphics settings I need to use but will figure it out I guess. The new HDMI switch I bought is manual but want to see if that works to pass audio on older computer.

Now I have to login on both pc's. Cant remember how I fixed that in the past. More research!

 

[lovethemeats]

Wow. Smoking meat forum now talking computers. Huh. I built many computers. What sucks is the speed at which everything is evolving. I now go with laptops. You want a great gaming computer. Go with asus. The ROG versions. Them are good and come with a lot of bells and whistles. With top of the line graphics card. On my second ROG laptop and haven't regretted dumping the standard computer. After you build a computer and spend thousands only to be outdated 3 years later. It sucks. Watch and make sure your motherboard can be updated for future use. Along with everything else. I'm happy with my latest ROG laptop from Asus. Spent about $1800 on it but for games and movies. Hard to beat it. My older built computer is turned into a media center for my house. My yamaha receiver can pull music from it on demand.

 

[jcam222]

Wow. Smoking meat forum now talking computers. Huh. I built many computers. What sucks is the speed at which everything is evolving. I now go with laptops. You want a great gaming computer. Go with asus. The ROG versions. Them are good and come with a lot of bells and whistles. With top of the line graphics card. On my second ROG laptop and haven't regretted dumping the standard computer. After you build a computer and spend thousands only to be outdated 3 years later. It sucks. Watch and make sure your motherboard can be updated for future use. Along with everything else. I'm happy with my latest ROG laptop from Asus. Spent about $1800 on it but for games and movies. Hard to beat it. My older built computer is turned into a media center for my house. My yamaha receiver can pull music from it on demand.

I went the opposite direction. I gamed on high end gaming laptops for years due to work travel. I've mostly done Alienware and MSI. I know that some laptops have the high end cards but many are laptop versions with things scaled down / throttled due to heat issues. I do know the sometimes cram a full desktop version in them. My MSI Dragon had a full desktop version card. I went desktop because overall they are easier to upgrade and work on if needed. When I was shopping and comparing comparable specs for desktop vs laptop the desktops also usually came in cheaper with better specs.

 

[paulgeorge]

Boy I have had a hell of a day bringing this new computer up. First I bought a HDMI splitter so I could use both computers. Figured be easier to copy data. My old computer will not pass audio through the splitter. Than tried to bring new computer up and only got video for a few seconds. Had it going to avr. Tried hooking straight to tv and it would just flash off and on. After messing with it for long time it finally started working on input 4 on tv. Got updates done. Tried going back straight to avr and would not work. Finally hooked it up to the splitter and now it works. It will not work without using the splitter? This thing got me totally baffled! Refresh rate was only set to 30 so set it to 60hz. I ordered another splitter. All my HDMI on receiver full. Than moved on to trying to network both computers together with a crossover ethernet cable. Never got it to work. Just going to use external drive to transfer. It time for a drink and call it quits! Try it today

also thank you for your suggestion

 

[chopsaw]

After you build a computer and spend thousands only to be outdated 3 years later.

After reading through this thread , I went downstairs yesterday and counted 9 PC's from various time frames . All pumped up in some form , and the late 90's early 2k's units are Asus MB , nvidia , sound blaster and a controller card on the hard drive . I went past the gaming at some point and was running the performance tests and posting scores on Tom's Hardware . Lol .
Not to mention all the hardware in a drawer down there . Fists full of memory . I really should do something with it . Found a couple Voodoo 2 SLI cards in with some GeForce Ti's and a 9800 radeon .
Problem is you can't get the drivers anymore .

 

[jcam222]

After reading through this thread , I went downstairs yesterday and counted 9 PC's from various time frames . All pumped up in some form , and the late 90's early 2k's units are Asus MB , nvidia , sound blaster and a controller card on the hard drive . I went past the gaming at some point and was running the performance tests and posting scores on Tom's Hardware . Lol .
Not to mention all the hardware in a drawer down there . Fists full of memory . I really should do something with it . Found a couple Voodoo 2 SLI cards in with some GeForce Ti's and a 9800 radeon .
Problem is you can't get the drivers anymore .

Ah Soundblaster a real blast from the past! For awhile they were the gold standard of pc gaming sound cards

 

[chopsaw]

For awhile they were the gold standard of pc gaming sound cards

Yup . Sound Blaster live 5.1 . I have the speaker setup for it too . Heck I have several surround setups for PC's . Boston acoustics and Creative . I think there's an Ensoniq down there too .
Need to fire some of it up .

I built one that has 2 Slot 1 P-3 550 processors . Multiple hard drives . Had it loaded up with music , movies and games . Had 9 PC's on the network . Kids could log into Quake 3 and play against each other , watch movies or play music .