I'm at a hospital in Arkansas to be with my mom. She fell very ill a few days ago. So, to pass time I'm continuing with ordering stuff for our kitchen and dining room rebuild. I also ordered what I need to do some UMAi pepperoni when I get home. I went with Al's write up. I got the 50mm casings. And will be bumping up the amount of spice as well. Should be fun giving this a go. I finally found where I can get fat back.