First Brisket w/Q-view

Discussion in 'Beef' started by curtlow, May 17, 2015.

  1. curtlow

    curtlow Fire Starter

    So I just bought a new WSM 22.5 smoker.  First cook after letting it run at 320F for 3 hrs to "season" it was chicken legs.  Just used S&P and they turned out awesome.  Really juicy and great smoke flavor.  

    Decided at last minute to do my first brisket.  Got a 4lb brisket flat at local Sams for $6.64 a lb.  Decided to keep it simple with just S&P.  Not much time so going to run smoker around 275F until probe tender using pecan and a little of mesquite wood.  No wrapping.  Hope this isn't a mistake.  Don't want it to take forever and hope its done in time for dinner.  Tried to get most of silver skin off but wasn't easy so decided to leave rest on.  

    Found a couple of prime packers at sams while I was there for $3.68lb.  Not sure if this is cheap or not.  Choice was $3.28lb.  What do you guys think?  Only has 2 primes left. Not sure if I should get them before they're gone or not.

    Here is brisket flat seasoned up and ready for smoker.




    Here it is on the smoker.  


    This is my first live Q-View and first shot at brisket.  Hope this turns out well.  
     
  2. noboundaries

    noboundaries Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Those packer prices are fantastic for Choice and Prime.  Definitely worth buying. 

    If you find yourself running short on time you can wrap it.  You'll still get a nice bark as long as you are well past the stall. 
     
  3. curtlow

    curtlow Fire Starter

    Looks like I'll be making a trip back to sams tomorrow and pick up those primes and freeze them.  Don't think they have them very often.  They always have plenty of the choice.  

    Here's a pick 3 hrs in when I inserted the meat probe.  167F.  Not much bark to speak of but looks good.  

     
  4. curtlow

    curtlow Fire Starter

    Well it's finally done.  Ran smoker around 280F.  Took about 7.5 hrs to hit 205 and still wasn't quite done.  Couldn't believe it took this long at that tem.  Let it rest for about 30 min.  Flavor wise it was awesome.  Had a nice bark and smoke ring but still had a little tug to it and could use a little more moisture.  

    Mistakes I think I made was not being patient enough to let it get done.  Not letting it rest long enough.  And I didn't trim off enough fat cap.  Oh well it was a good learning experience.  I'll do better on the next one.   Overall I'd give myself a C.   Thanks for looking.  





     
    Last edited: May 17, 2015
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  5. rmmurray

    rmmurray Master of the Pit

    I give myself a C me eat it, if it were mine. Too bad we don't have Q smell and Q taste. The Q view looks fantastic. Great job.
    -Ryan
     
  6. dukeburger

    dukeburger Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Really nice smoke ring, great job!
     
  7. curtlow

    curtlow Fire Starter

    Haha yeah flavor wise it was killer just would have liked it if their was a little less tug.   Thanks a lot
    Thanks appreciate it. 
     
  8. demosthenes9

    demosthenes9 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Great job for your first attempt and you're right on the money with what to do next time.  Just a little more time would have nailed it.

    FWIW, cook time is dependent on the thickness of the brisket, not it's weight.   Thicker hunks of flat will take longer then thinner pieces, even if the thinner one weighs more
     
  9. Congrats.  Nice color and smoke ring. yeah sometimes just a bit longer makes a big difference. Looks moist !!!

    Remember in a pinch after you have taken it off your smoker and brought it in, you can always foil it or put it in a roasting pan with a little moisture and pop it in the oven.

    Nice Job  [​IMG]

    Gary
     
  10. bruno994

    bruno994 Master of the Pit

    Looks good.  Yep, patience is the #1 thing when it comes to brisket cooking.  Everyone wants it to be ready for dinner, but never starts it early enough.  

    Jump on those prices for Primes, wish I could find them that cheap around here.  I look through the coolers hoping to find one mismarked to maybe get that low for Prime.  
     
  11. curtlow

    curtlow Fire Starter

    This explains the cook time then and I didn't even think of that.  I picked this specific brisket out because it was a lot thicker than the others, even the ones that weighed more.  Just looked like a lot better brisket.  Thanks for the info and comments.
    Thanks a lot.  I think it would have benefited more if I had let it rest longer, we were hungry and tired of waiting.  But will def keep this in mind for the next one.  Thanks for the info. 
     
  12. curtlow

    curtlow Fire Starter

    Yep def didn't start it early enough.  Didn't think it would take as long as it did but also didn't think about how thick it was before I started as Demo stated.  Live and learn I guess.  I'll just be better prepared for the next one.  

    Yeah I wasn't sure if those prices were good or not since I hadn't bought a brisket before but I'm headed back to sams this evening to get both primes that were left.  Hope they're still there.  

    Thanks for comments and looking. 
     
    Last edited: May 18, 2015
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    Yep, I’m learning that one of the things about smoking certain meats is the early bird gets the good Q.

    It takes discipline to get up early and get ‘er going. The serious smokers stay up all night I think! You really have to if you want to serve freshly smoked well rested Q at say 1PM for a gathering.

    Smoking without another person to help tag team can make for dark circles under the eyes!

    Great color on the brisket and the slices look good.
     
  14. curtlow

    curtlow Fire Starter

    No doubt about it.  My daughter turns 1yo on friday and we're having her birthday party saturday at 1 and I'm smoking a brisket.  So this was pretty much my trial run and I figured out I'm going to have to start a lot earlier than I thought I would.  It's going to be a long night friday night for me but will be worth it.   Thanks for the comments.
     
  15. bruno994

    bruno994 Master of the Pit

    Word of advice, smoke that brisket for 4 hours, get the right color you want, then wrap it up and throw it in the oven to finish up.  Prevents those black circles and sure does make it a lot more fun.  You don't have to look like you went 12 rounds with a heavyweight to produce great brisket.   
     
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  16. grillmonkey

    grillmonkey Smoking Fanatic

    Something that helped me get brisket right was a youtube video on cooking brisket by Aaron Franklin at Franklin BBQ in Austin. TX



    If you watch the toothpick poke when it's done, it will give you a visual of what to expect when you do it. He also has one for butts and ribs.
     
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    Hey Bruno. Would it work well to do the 4 hr. smoke a day or two ahead, wrap in foil, in the fridge, and pull it out and in to the oven at 6am to finish for his party at 1PM?
     
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    bruno994 Master of the Pit

    Chef K, you certainly can do that, I've used a close method at competitions over the last year or so.  I might would allow more than 6 hours to finish though, your taking it typically before you foil to about 160 IT or so, then refrigerating, bringing it back around 40 degrees or so.  Your best bet would be to fully cook it, then reheat the day of the party.  I woudl even suggest that you fully cook it, slice and chop it ready to be served in a pan with all the au jus from the cook.  Sitting in that bath will only make it better over the next day or so.  Soaking up all the goodness, not to mention steeping in it as it reheats. 

    If you do choose to smoke one day and finish another, just make sure and give yourself a good 8 hours or so, better to be safe than have a hungry crowd waiting on you.  My cooking buddies like to say..."You had one job..."
     
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    Awesome. So he/we could even smoke one day or evening, oven roast the next day and slice, let the slices soak in those juices for a couple days and warm an hour or so before serving. I like it!

    Easy for me because I work from home most of the time. If you have a real job and have to leave, you could take the meat out right before walking out the door; put it in a pan just to guard against Drippage while away, use the timer feature on the oven (if you have one; my oven even has a temp probe setting and can be teed up to shut off at temp) to have the meat done or almost done when you get home (providing you get home on time!) and slice it up. Making the whole thing much less stressful.

    Do you add moisture to your foiled brisket? Use a pan/foil pan covered with foil?

    I’m liking the sound of this…
     
    Last edited: May 18, 2015
  20. bob-bqn

    bob-bqn Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Always love to see someone smoking brisket for the first time. Makes me remember way back when I did, without knowing much about it, and it keeps it fresh for us old-timers!

     

    Still, not every brisket turns out exactly the way I hope, some of them critters are just plain ornery. Still it gets better with experience, so don't be too hard on yourself. I’ve heard too many folks say that a brisket is done when it gets done.

     

    Now from here, that sliced meat is beautiful! Really, you did a marvelous job for the first time out. Congratulations!
     

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