Exploring Low Carb, Healthy Fat, Moderate Protein Diet - Not Keto Quite Yet

[Brokenhandle]

Please share. I have high triglycerides and ok total cholesterol. meds help but not enough. I can't take statins - they give me horrible muscle pain! Im gonna watch the vids you posted.

Stopped taking mine for the same reason!

Ryan

 

[sandyut]

Stopped taking mine for the same reason!

Ryan

took me a while to figure it out, but man it got so bad! Doc was surprised, no shock there. but during any exercise/activity the pain was unbearable.

 

[indaswamp]

Extreme low carb. kills cancer cells.....
https://x.com/catsscareme2021/status/1865082844680175821

gki is the glucose ketone index. Take your fasting glucose reading and divide by 18.016. Take that and divide by your ketone reading.... below 9 and you are in mild ketosis. below 2...or even lower down to 1....is therapeutic ketosis and kills cancer cells in the body by starving these dysfuctional cells of glucose.

 

[noboundaries]

Congrats to everyone on keto or thinking about it. I've got a ways to go to get to my desired weight. I'm 69, and I can only imagine how eating like this 20 years ago would have improved my life, metabolism, mental state, and fitness.

Had 75/25 burgers tonight. New York strips tomorrow.

Ray

 

[indaswamp]

Great video on the benefits of L.reuteri....also directions on how to make the yogurt....and another keystone bacteria yeast recommended...

 

[indaswamp]

I went to Wally World and bought the Florastor and a gallon of natural OJ...gonna make the probiotic drink with the bacteria strain. At the very least, I will have a fizzy orange soda that is Keto! LOL! but the saccharomyces boulardii strain does have health benefits.

 

[noboundaries]

Great video on the benefits of L.reuteri....also directions on how to make the yogurt.

Yep. That's the video that started me making reuteri yogurt last October. I eat 4-6 oz every night with a squirt of liquid Stevia. My wife adds blueberries. She eating some as I type. Yummy stuff.

I made a couple batches with the wrong starter. Edible, barely. Tasted like cheese. Switched to the correct starter from BioGaia. Creamy and smooth. Made the first batch, then used it for following batches. Eating the 15th batch now.

I bought the Ultimate yogurt maker off Amazon with the eight 6 oz jars. Those jars are a PITA, especially during sterilization. Picked up four 1-quart, glass, rimless Pyrex storage containers for $5.18 each at WinCo. Two fit PERFECTLY in the yogurt maker. Four containers means I can start the next batch while finishing the previous batch.

36 hours is a bit tangy. I like it, but my wife prefers less tangy, so I do 28-30 hours and use water heated to 99°F to fill the maker at the start. It saves time and starts the fermentation more quickly.

I use 6 cups of half/half and 3 Tbs starter and 3 Tbs Inulin so I get more per batch.

Gonna make a batch tomorrow.

Ray

Hmmm, can't attach a picture.

 

[tallbm]

Yep. That's the video that started me making reuteri yogurt last October. I eat 4-6 oz every night with a squirt of liquid Stevia. My wife adds blueberries. She eating some as I type. Yummy stuff.

I made a couple batches with the wrong starter. Edible, barely. Tasted like cheese. Switched to the correct starter from BioGaia. Creamy and smooth. Made the first batch, then used it for following batches. Eating the 15th batch now.

I bought the Ultimate yogurt maker off Amazon with the eight 6 oz jars. Those jars are a PITA, especially during sterilization. Picked up four 1-quart, glass, rimless Pyrex storage containers for $5.18 each at WinCo. Two fit PERFECTLY in the yogurt maker. Four containers means I can start the next batch while finishing the previous batch.

36 hours is a bit tangy. I like it, but my wife prefers less tangy, so I do 28-30 hours and use water heated to 99°F to fill the maker at the start. It saves time and starts the fermentation more quickly.

I use 6 cups of half/half and 3 Tbs starter and 3 Tbs Inulin so I get more per batch.

Gonna make a batch tomorrow.

Ray

Hmmm, can't attach a picture.

I just made a batch of keto yogurt this past week. Been a while and was more of a fun project for the girlfriend to enjoy.

I use the instant pot and already had 4-6 oz of the last batch saved and frozen but I still have the starter culture (Probiotic Mild Yogurt Starter Culture ABY-2C).

I use 1 gallon of Fair Trade real dairy whole milk, it's lactose free due to their filtration process. I then ferment for 24 hours and drain for 12. I get about 3 pounds 9 oz of yogurt and 8 oz of a more cheesy curd bit of stuff BUT we turned that into a cream cheese spread. It will work fine as a more cream cheese texture yogurt which I would just eat it as in the past.

Made vanilla and watermelon flavor... yep watermelon! Used allulose and erythritol. The vanilla flavor was from extract, the watermelon flavor was from Lorrans watermelon flavoring, about 6-9 drops. It's hard to measure the drops as it comes out of that little bottle. Never thought watermelon yogurt flavor would be the best of the flavorings I had on hand to try but I don't argue with it lol.

Good to see another keto yogurt maker here... though I don't make it anymore because I'll eat WAY too much of it hahaha. Ok, my rambling is over now :D

 

[indaswamp]

OJ is bubbling....so the yeast is multiplying...only been 12 hours so will let it go for a full 48 and see what happens.

 

[noboundaries]

It took me a while to adjust my diet and eating habits to lower carbs, moderate protein, higher healthy fat, but my here's my latest blood glucose test after 3 2/3's months of Intermittent fasting (12‐20 hours/day, 15.5 average) and mostly keto diet of 60 net carbs average/day. Zero meds. Light exercise. Some supplements. Latest average result was 5.7/117. A nice drop from 6.0/124. Weight is only down 4.5 lbs during that time, but my belly button measurement has dropped 2.5 inches. Ketones average 1.62/day, with a low of 0 and a high of 8.0.

I haven't felt this good in DECADES!

Ray

 

[indaswamp]

Keto is AMAZING!!!!!!! Kudos to you for sticking with it!

 

[indaswamp]

New info!!

 

[indaswamp]

 

[Smoke-Chem BBQ]

I was hoping the video referenced actual data to support the claims made, but alas, it did not...

 

[indaswamp]

I was hoping the video referenced actual data to support the claims made, but alas, it did not...

I can send you links... But the topic has been well researched.

 

[Smoke-Chem BBQ]

I can send you links... But the topic has been well researched.

That would be great, as I'm not following the literature as closely since I retired.

I'm not questioning some of the benefits of the diet, including delaying or stopping the onset of diabetes, and some link to improved outcomes in treatment of epilepsy and schizophrenia, but I mostly object to his claim that 5 or 10 days on a ketogenic diet give rise to a 70% reduction in 'all symptoms for all diseases' , which is clearly nonsense. Also, I've not seen good clinical evidence for his claim that the diet cures cancer, alzheimers, and depression--only hand-waving claims that there might be a benefit based on small correlation studies, or animal models. There is also evidence that a ketogenic diet increases cancer metastasis; not something you want.

As Carl Sagan so elegantly stated: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

 

[indaswamp]

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7387764/

 

[indaswamp]

Actual patients..
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...can-a-new-diet-help-people-with-schizophrenia

 

[Smoke-Chem BBQ]

Yes, I'd noted above that there were some interesting results for schizophrenia treatment, but the links above do stress it's very preliminary. Just rodent studies and a couple of tests in 5-10 humans, but without control groups, blinding, statistical analysis, or randomization, and the participants also stayed on their medication throughout.

It's enough to say 'maybe there is something to this, lets do more serious studies', but it's still a long way from 'extraordinary evidence'.

 

[Displaced Texan]

Eliminated all processed carbs almost 3 weeks ago. 95% meat, fats, butter. Some berries and vegetables occasionally. Big thing I am also doing is fasting. 18/6 but also multiple 24 and 48 hour fasts. Big time ketosis, I assume. Here is what it has done for me...

First, I feel great, like others. More energy, physical and mental, than I have had in years. But, I apparently had inflammation that I attributed to working out. Shoulder bursitis that I didn't realize was bursitis, gone.

Dry, itchy skin, gone.

For several years I have had watery eyes that were so bad it was almost constant. Got worse lately. Eye doctor said it is dry eyes. Must have been inflammation because that is now gone, too.

Had heartburn sometimes and late night acid reflux that would keep me up for an hour. Gone.

Also, down around 20 pounds to about 202 and clothes, of course, fitting better than they have for years.

Maybe it's keto. Dunno, just enjoying a lot of red meat, pasture raised eggs, etc. Looking forward to brisket season just about to get underway. No fat sides like usual. Just meat.