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1. That MIT scientist is an idiot if he’s saying this isn’t a big deal.
2. The numbers below equal a 3.7% case fatality rate. Seasonal influenza rates (2018-2019) are 0.1%
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3. That’s just people who died. Infection can be bad too. Described as flu like in many cases. The flu isn’t fun.

4. Do people think China and Italy aren’t first world countries?

Im out on this thread. It’s not fear mongering or misinformation. It’s reality.

Signed an actually PHD in viruses and the immune system.
 
We needed milk, eggs, bread, fruit and veggies yesterday. Headed to my preferred grocery store during a normal down time (2 PM) and there wasn't a parking space in sight. Just drove on by.

Woke up this morning (no alarm) and was at the same store by 6:20 AM. No bananas, milk, onions, and only four checkers. Saw folks like me, and folks who were pushing two baskets filled with hoarded supplies.

The checkout lines were growing by the minute. Skipped a lot of the nonessential stuff on my list because I hate lines. The parking lot was packed by the time I walked out at 7:15 AM.

I needed to roast coffee before the rain started so my wife went to a different store about 8AM. They had everything else on my list. She said there were a few empty shelves, but it wasn't that crowded and people seemed to be buying normal stuff.

This, too, will pass.
 
You bet your life! My wife went to Walmart today and most of the shelves were bare. Earlier I had pulled into the parking lot of a Fry's Market and couldn't find a space that'd fit my truck, the lot was packed so I just drove back home. We started following this when the reports from China first came out, seems everything that'll make you really sick just before it kills you originates there or in Africa. The fridge, garage freezer and pantry were already well stocked, we didn't have to get much extra to be good for the next 2-3 months. I filled up a half dozen 5 gallon gas cans to run two Honda 2000's if needed to keep the fridge and freezer going in case of power outage. I found my bigtime hazmat mask and box of surgical gloves in the garage today after a little searching. Now the word is to watch out for robbers, guys with no food or supplies who weren't prepared. I had a CCW permit issued from the state of California before we moved here, and non-resident permits for AZ and Utah, legal to pack concealed in 35 states. Before we moved nine months back I wouldn't have thought of going to my local Safeway without my S&W40 Shield tucked into my pants, too many gangbangers around in CA. Since we moved it's been so safe here I haven't hardly touched it but for drives up into unknown territory. I'm planning to start shopping for fresh food early in the morning on weekdays to save what we've got stockpiled. I'm planning to start packing a gun again when I go to the grocery store, I'm legal to do so. No one knows how bad this will get or how long it'll last. If it's all over in a week I still won't feel bad about being prepared, everything will get used in time. If it gets bad and lasts awhile we're locked down like a fortress in a house were real comfortable in. Being prepared isn't being paranoid or afraid, it's being ready for whatever may come, or hoping your ready. RAY
I went to the store Thursday just to get a jump and not have to go out over the weekend. The only thing sold out was sanitizing wipes. Plenty of everything else. A neighbor friend called my wife this morning from Meijer. She said it was PACKED and a lot of things were gone. we're good for 2 or 3 weeks on food, etc., although I'll need to get out every now and then for beer and cigarettes....
If it gets worse than that we're all in trouble, especially those of us in large cities. Let's hope for the best.
I've been carrying everywhere for years now. Ah life in the city.
 
I went to the store Thursday just to get a jump and not have to go out over the weekend. The only thing sold out was sanitizing wipes. Plenty of everything else. A neighbor friend called my wife this morning from Meijer. She said it was PACKED and a lot of things were gone. we're good for 2 or 3 weeks on food, etc., although I'll need to get out every now and then for beer and cigarettes....If it gets worse than that we're all in trouble, especially those of us in large cities. Let's hope for the best. I've been carrying everywhere for years now. Ah life in the city.


I quit cigarettes two months ago cold turkey after smoking for a little over 55 years. The first two weeks were pretty tough, after a month I was starting to chill out. Now I find myself not even thinking about them, I do feel better. We never much bothered to think what we were spending on ciggys, but between my wife and I it was a easy $6.000 a year. Once you Jones you feel pretty good about not having the tail wag the dog. Just sayin'. RAY
 
I quit cigarettes two months ago cold turkey after smoking for a little over 55 years. The first two weeks were pretty tough, after a month I was starting to chill out. Now I find myself not even thinking about them, I do feel better. We never much bothered to think what we were spending on ciggys, but between my wife and I it was a easy $6.000 a year. Once you Jones you feel pretty good about not having the tail wag the dog. Just sayin'. RAY
I know. The money part bothers me more than the health issues. My health is outstanding but hers is not. We keep talking about it but never actually pulling the trigger. This year maybe. As you well know, it's hard because we've both been smoking for many years and actually enjoy it. It's not just a habit.....
Thank you for the encouragement.
Dan
 
I know. The money part bothers me more than the health issues. My health is outstanding but hers is not. We keep talking about it but never actually pulling the trigger. This year maybe. As you well know, it's hard because we've both been smoking for many years and actually enjoy it. It's not just a habit..... Thank you for the encouragement. Dan


That's why I quit, my wife's lungs aren't the greatest and it was only going to be a matter of time before it became a lot bigger issue, mine are fine. I told her that having to wear a oxygen mask was going to have a real effect on where would go and what we would be able to do. We loved smoking, and it is a habit. Once you quit you'll be able to realize just how much it stinks, it does stink. It doesn't roll over, but it's certainly doable. RAY
 
1. That MIT scientist is an idiot if he’s saying this isn’t a big deal.
2. The numbers below equal a 3.7% case fatality rate. Seasonal influenza rates (2018-2019) are 0.1%
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3. That’s just people who died. Infection can be bad too. Described as flu like in many cases. The flu isn’t fun.

4. Do people think China and Italy aren’t first world countries?

Im out on this thread. It’s not fear mongering or misinformation. It’s reality.

Signed an actually PHD in viruses and the immune system.


Stop trying to spread panic that's the problem..A lot of cases go unreported thus the mortality rate is much much lower. Freakin sheeple causing mass panic over a flu less lethal than mrsa is a freaking joke .. stop already.
 
Ok I can’t stop sorry yall


Stop trying to spread panic that's the problem..A lot of cases go unreported thus the mortality rate is much much lower. Freakin sheeple causing mass panic over a flu less lethal than mrsa is a freaking joke .. stop already.

Let’s pretend that there are a lot of cases that are undiagnosed. That’s probably true. Which is what the head of the NIAID said when he said 10x more deadly than seasonal flu. He’s assuming a 1% case fatality rate (not mortality rate) based on best data from other countries.

This coronavirus isn’t a flu btw. And MRSA mortality rate is between 6 and 50% depending on strain. But MRSA is not transmissible like this virus is.
 
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YBefore we moved nine months back I wouldn't have thought of going to my local Safeway without my S&W40 Shield tucked into my pants, too many gangbangers around in CA. Since we moved it's been so safe here I haven't hardly touched it but for drives up into unknown territory. I'm planning to start shopping for fresh food early in the morning on weekdays to save what we've got stockpiled. I'm planning to start packing a gun again when I go to the grocery store, I'm legal to do so. No one knows how bad this will get or how long it'll last. If it's all over in a week I still won't feel bad about being prepared, everything will get used in time. If it gets bad and lasts awhile we're locked down like a fortress in a house were real comfortable in. Being prepared isn't being paranoid or afraid, it's being ready for whatever may come, or hoping your ready. RAY
Holy $hit, I'm glad I don't live where you live Ray. We just barely started locking our front doors. The only weapon I have in the house is a baseball bat from my little league days. I couldn't live in a place where I felt the need to carry a gun while grocery shopping.

Chris

Ok first a little humor.....we have a couple of Walmart’s we frequent in these parts and I rate them by the “friend” that joins me on the trip......first we have the one where the everywhere every day pocket .380 is fine for, then there is the 2 where the 9 is in order.....but then there is the one I park under the police camera and the full size 45 and a couple of mags come along.....and if late in the evening a BUG too, but then again after 10 they are all 45 visits.......

PS - I’m in a very low crime area but one of the G friendliest places in the world.....the neighboring town in my county requires every household to have a FA.....

On the serious note.....even though this bug may not effect younger healthy people that bad it is really bad for older folks and those with health issues. For example, I have a co-worker with a heart condition and is 62....another that is 65 with lung issues (only has one lung). Both of them are very concerned and should be....the common flu is really bad for them......on a personal side my wife has an auto-immune disease and my daughter has a week immune system.....so we are being extra careful.....

As a Eagle scout (be prepared) and life in AK and ND has taught us you need to be.....We always have a full month of supply of fresh type stuff as a matter of just being prepared and have 9 months worth of long term living so not too much freaking out here....

my work stopped all company travel two weeks ago and ordered any staff from areas with cases to self quarantine and work from home and starting this week all staff are working at home.....so I’m just going to enjoy the time with the fam and do some nice smokes......

Edit, just the every day stock, doesn’t count the garage, or other two full closets that are always full and get rotated out to keep things fresh....Or the additional two weeks of dry goods we keep in the trailer, especially since we just prepped and stocked it for camping season......
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I’m glad I live in Arkansas, cause this is the norm here: replace cow with pig.....(banjos playing in the background..) looks like immune boys!!!
 
Oh I have to add this.......

7 cans of spam, 7 eggs, and 3.5 cups of rice will provide about 2200 calories a day for 7 days.....it takes about 90 cans of chicken soup to do the same......so if you are eating 90 cans of chicken soup in a week you dang well better have a bunch o TP in stock!!!!!!! Just saying as I was watching a couple the other night buying cases of green beans, no-meat chili and ketchup......that is the recipe to make lots of crap!!!!!!
 
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