Empty store shelves...

[sawhorseray]

This is just getting underway Dave, who knows what the numbers will look like a year from now. RAY

 

[daveomak]

Exactly.... They haven't tested many folks... We don't know how many are infected...
If you test 100 folks and 40 die, you can extrapolate that 40% of the population will die....
There is a faction in this country that want to scare the poop out of you....
It's good for their campaign rhetoric...

 

[JCAP]

The issue is that we have PLENTY of data of how this virus has progressed and is still progressing through other countries. Countries who have not had a piss poor response to this pandemic like the US.

Containment is key to slowing this and allowing the healthcare infrastructure to deal with all the infections.

The numbers aren’t bogus, they’re incredibly real.

 

[gmc2003]

Where I live now in Gilbert, AZ ranks as one of the 25 safest city's to live in in the USA. Where I moved from in Elk Grove, CA started out as a small town and a great place to live that somehow grew to have over 60 recognized gangs with a population of about 180,000. We lived in a nice neighborhood that grew to have it's fair share of home burglaries, cars broken into, geez, I had my trailer hitch and a old dog crate stolen from my truck at night. The only time I've ever put my hand on my carry weapon was right after I got my hip replaced and was limping in the parking lot of a grocery store, some gangbangers in a parked car calling out for gas money. They're like predators, they look for the old, weak, and injured. I'll be 69 this year, have had both hips replaced and own a body full of arthritis, a prime candidate for a predator. I go to the range at least once a month and practice with both my 40's, I've always been a pretty fair shot. We live in a beautiful upscale neighbor hood, no crime yet that I've seen, and I imagine the Gilbert police department does a fine job protecting it's citizens. I don't feel the "need" to carry as much as it just make me feel a little safer and secure when I do. I'd much rather have a carry weapon on me and not need it than need one and not have it. CCW permits aren't issued to criminals, and criminals don't bother obtaining one. Can you dig it? RAYView attachment 435841

Gilbert sounds like a great place. Especially considering how Elk Grove turned out. I moved out of Burlington(our largest city) not because of violence, but because of the political direction it was heading in. I guess I wasn't made to live in a larger city.

Chris

 

[Central PA Cowboy]

There's a lot of ignorance in this thread.

People are self quarantining, which is why people are buying things in bulk.

The whole point of schools being closed and other things being closed is to be proactive and not let this virus spread like it has in China and Italy.

Also, you can be a carrier of the virus with no symptoms. If this is the case and you are in a group of people or public places, you can give it to someone who is in the high risk group and even more people who will then go on and spread it.

Try to understand the issue at hand before giving your opinion.

 

[hawtsauc3]

There's a lot of ignorance in this thread.

People are self quarantining, which is why people are buying things in bulk.

The whole point of schools being closed and other things being closed is to be proactive and not let this virus spread like is has in China and Italy.

Also, you can be a carrier of the virus with no symptoms. If this is the case and you are in a group of people or public places, you can give it to someone who is in the high risk group and even more people who will then go on and spread it.

Try to understand the issue at hand before giving your opinion.

This! Someone came to our office complex to get pizza at a restaurant in the building. It’s one of those giant towers with tons of companies etc. the person ended up testing positive a few days later and my company shipped us all home to work until April. I luckily started stocking up a while ago but the store was crazy. Aldi had basically no meat and nothing frozen.
My creepiest experience by far though was Menards, which I went to for pet supplies. The store was PACKED but you could hear a pin drop. Everyone was polite and would nod and smile but you could tell most people had a severe sense of panic. It was like shopping in a zombie apocalypse movie.

 

[Chasdev]

The reason to be VERY afraid is because the virus is transmittable through aerosolized particles not just on surfaces.
Also, infected persons can be symptom free for weeks and at the same time be spreading the virus to people who catch it and also won't be showing symptoms while THEY are spreading the virus.
Stockpiling food and supplies is not to prevent your exposure, it's to allow you to eat/drink etc..while YOU and your family are quarantined in your home for 6 weeks.

 

[sawhorseray]

My curiosity was killing me so a little while ago I hopped in my truck and drove the three miles to the Fry's Market. I pulled in at 5:15 am, the store had been open for 15 minutes, the parking was half full. Folks were coming out with cases of water, there wasn't a potato or onion to be seen in the veg department, the long display case where the day before yesterday I picked thru packs of chicken thighs on sale for 88¢ lb was totally empty. It looks like fresh veggies won't be much of a problem, especially since I'm a early riser and can go weekdays. I walked out with three corned beefs that were going for $2.79 a pound, I'll need some beer by next week. It's crazy, but it's for real. RAY

 

[Brokenhandle]

One thing I don't understand, people go to the store to buy water, I get thirsty I go to the sink and turn on the water. Camping yes, no faucets but staying at home???

Ryan

 

[negolien]

Ridiculous.....most healthy people won't even feel sick. Too much sky is falling... little different in 3rd world countries but this hysteria is driving healthy people to freak out which is NOT helpful...until I start seeing mass graves I am living life as usual. The sheeple can run around screaming the sky is falling. I will be bbqing ...drinking a whiskey and coke and laughing at em

 

[sawhorseray]

One thing I don't understand, people go to the store to buy water, I get thirsty I go to the sink and turn on the water. Camping yes, no faucets but staying at home??? Ryan [/QUOTE

All depends on what comes out of the faucet where you live Ryan. We're OK here where I live but I know a couple of towns over the water that comes from the faucet isn't fit to drink. We opted to have a filtration and softening system installed, what comes out of the fridge is what I'd drink if I drank water, I prefer cranberry juice or beer. RAY

 

[indaswamp]

Ridiculous.....most healthy people won't even feel sick. Too much sky is falling... little different in 3rd world countries but this hysteria is driving healthy people to freak out which is NOT helpful...until I start seeing mass graves I am living life as usual. The sheeple can run around screaming the sky is falling. I will be bbqing ...drinking a whiskey and coke and laughing at em

This is in Iran, but it is happening...
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/worl...d-coronavirus-outbreak/ar-BB11997L?li=AAgfIYZ

independent video also corroborates this.

China brought in mobile incinerators throughout Wuhan in lieu of mass graves.

 

[indaswamp]

We make it a practice to fill the tubs with water when a hurricane hits...just in case. If needed for drinking water it can be boiled.

 

[tx smoker]

I'm seeing different types of responses seemingly on a regional basis. I was in three grocery stores yesterday. All I was looking to get were some jalapenos, serranos, Roma tomatoes, and a head of lettuce. The first two stores I went in were larger chains and it was absolute insanity. Lines out the doors. The first store had an employee going through the lines telling folks how long a wait they could expect. The end of the line was where I went in and they were saying a 4 hour wait. Nope, not gonna do it. Turned around and walked out. The second store was crazy busy as well but at least I could walk through. Went to check on a couple of things just out of curiosity to see what was totally gone. Toilet paper and bottled water of course. Typically in panic times people jump all over bread, milk, eggs, and stuff like that. All of those bins were well stocked. No shortage of any of those items. Ditto that with fresh produce and meat. All the bins were actually over stocked and nobody was the least bit interested. Not being inclined to spend half the day waiting in line I left that store also without buying anything. Went to my little grocery store here in Lago Vista on the way home. It was busy but no more so than on a holiday weekend. Same situations as the second store I went into. Plenty of meat, dairy, and fresh produce but no TP or bottled water. Maybe I'm lucky in this regard but Tracy has always been in an apocalyptic mentality where TP and laundry detergent are concerned. She's just emphatic about keeping well stocked in those items. We probably have a years worth of both on hand. No panic on our end thank God. Add to that my propensity for having an abundance of meat on hand and 4 freezers full, we are in good shape across the board. The pantry is also well stocked with canned veggies and condiments. Without breaking a sweat and not having changed our lives to do it, we are probably good for 6 months if it comes down to brass tacks. My biggest concern would be fresh veggies but thus far that's not been an issue. I'll eat canned veggies but much prefer fresh. Heck, on the news earlier a spokesperson for HEB, which is a very large Texas based grocery chain, was telling everybody to calm down. There's plenty of food so no need to be buying in a panic state. That's refreshing but I can somewhat see it due to people wanting to limit their possible exposure and hunker down at home for a while.

In review, I have seen a number of situations similar in principal to this one, as have a lot of the rest of you. We will get through it and at the end of the day, I can only guess (pray??) that it doesn't get as bad as some of the forecasts are saying it could get. In the mean time, we have a couple friends coming over this afternoon and I'm gonna be cooking up a couple of massive tomahawk rib eyes. Y'all have a great weekend and stay safe.

Robert

 

[sawhorseray]

Ridiculous.....most healthy people won't even feel sick. Too much sky is falling... little different in 3rd world countries but this hysteria is driving healthy people to freak out which is NOT helpful...until I start seeing mass graves I am living life as usual. The sheeple can run around screaming the sky is falling. I will be bbqing ...drinking a whiskey and coke and laughing at em

Nero fiddled while Rome burned. RAY

 

[SmokinEdge]

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/12/coronavirus-panic-media-not-telling-even-3-4-global-death-rate/


https://techstartups.com/2020/03/12...s-will-go-biggest-fraud-manipulate-economies/


https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

 

[Central PA Cowboy]

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/12/coronavirus-panic-media-not-telling-even-3-4-global-death-rate/


https://techstartups.com/2020/03/12...s-will-go-biggest-fraud-manipulate-economies/


https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

I don't click links. Cliff notes?

 

[negolien]

This is in Iran, but it is happening...
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/worl...d-coronavirus-outbreak/ar-BB11997L?li=AAgfIYZ

independent video also corroborates this.

China brought in mobile incinerators throughout Wuhan in lieu of mass graves.

Let me rephrase that.. I will worry when a 1st world country starts digging mass graves lol...

As a side note hysteria has wiped out people's retirement....

 

[gmc2003]

One thing I don't understand, people go to the store to buy water, I get thirsty I go to the sink and turn on the water. Camping yes, no faucets but staying at home???

Ryan

In some municipalities the water is heavily treated and has an off taste. Then think of places like Flint MI. , and the past issues they've had with water. I'm on a well and our water is tested yearly and is fine for bathing, cooking, drinking, but it does have an slight mineral taste, So we purchase water for drinking purposes.

Chris

 

[indaswamp]

I went by the neighborhood grocery store this morning to see if they restocked. While a lot of selections in the meat dept. were not available, they had just put out more boston butt double packs for $0.99/lb. so I bought one. Project pepperoni is a go!