Beef Ribs Question

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I've never had beef ribs but after I saw this picture of some in this thread http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/126325/hello-from-sugar-land#post_848856  (in post #6) I got real hungry!

They are called "Beef Chuck Short Ribs", I have seen "Beef Ribs", "Short Ribs" and while looking at the local sale ads I found "Center Cut Beef Back Ribs". So my question is What are the different cuts of beef ribs and what is the difference in them? Those "Chuck Ribs" look like Burnt Ends on a Stick!
 
Have you caught this post from Pops6927?

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/122288/beef-101

Follow the link he added to that site and look for the rib cuts and shoulder cuts in the beef section to see the differences. Some of the cuts you mentioned may not be found there, as they may be some local butcher's or franchise's way to maximize the amount of resale from a primal cut. I've never seen beef chuck short ribs myself, but after reading htrisna's description of them, I understand where they are cut from.

Anyway, check out that site Pops referenced...it should give you a better idea of the differing rib cuts, and has some pretty decent descriptions of how each of the main cuts from the primal are derived, along with shopper's tips and recommended cooking tips...good info to have at hand for those of us who are not professional meat cutters, but want to get the most bang for our buck from a cut of meat.

Eric
 
I am interested in the differences too. I PM'd Pops for more detail...JJ
 
http://beefresearch.org/CMDocs/BeefResearch/Beef Cutout Calculator.pdf

http://www.copfaqs.com/meatfaqs-037-beef-short-ribs.htm

http://www.copfaqs.com/beef-foodservice-cuts-index.htm

http://www.copfaqs.com/meatfaqs-038-beef-back-ribs.htm

http://www.beeffoodservice.com/CMDocs/BFS/BeefU/BeefUFactSheets/06_PI-Gen.pdf

http://books.google.com/books?id=0B...Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=beef carcass namp&f=false

http://www.beef.org/

http://www.beefusa.org/


Beef Short Ribs, IMPS/NAMP 123 -- This item consists of the rib section from any rib and/or plate item and contains at least 2 but no more than 5 ribs. The purchases shall specify the number of ribs and width (distance between the dorsal and ventral sides) of the rib sections.


Beef Chuck, Short Ribs, IMPS/NAMP 130 -- This chuck cut contains rib numbers 2 through 5, the meat between the rib bones and the single muscle lying on top of the bones. This item is trimmed practically free of surface fat.


So, NAMP 123 is from any rib in the ribcage, and/or a mixture of cuts.

Whereas NAMP 130 is specifically from ribs 2-5.


Looking at the carcass from an interior view, you can see the sections.  In the forequarter area on the left, you see the Chuck, Rib and Plate.

From the Chuck, you get Long Ribs with plenty of meat on them on the right side of the chuck, the longer ribs showing.  They look like this when cut from the chuck:


You can cut them lengthwise into long ribs or cut the crosswise in half into short ribs, or cut them crosswise into thin strips:

beef chuck long ribs, 2-5 rib section, with meat:


Beef chuck short ribs (long ribs just cut in half):


beef short ribs cut into crossways strips, also known as beef flanken: (the whole chuck rib section shown in the first picture cut crosswise into thin strips across the bones):


All of the above are derived from the same cut, ribs 2 - 5 on the chuck.  These are the meatiest beef ribs.

Second, is the ribs off the rib section"


When you bone our the rib section, these are the ribs you take off.  They don't have much meat on them as what is attached is the prime rib roast boneless section; you want to leave that goodness on the roast, not the ribs!  

The whole rib/plate section before it is cut shows the shortribs you can acquire from it:


You cut off the rib roast section on the right, then cut the plate on the left into shortribs also:


That is where all the different shortribs / beefribs come from the carcass!
 
Thank You Pops! Great info. Now I know when I call my Butcher I will tell him I want Chuck Short Ribs NAMP 130 left intact. I like some really meaty short ribs...JJ
 
Thanks Pops! I knew I could count on you for a detailed answer!
 
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