a whole different breed of folk live, shop, and work there.

[krusher]

last nite I satred a thread about all the things that are on clearance at walmart and asked that others post what they have found at other stores, so others would see all the good deals available at this time of year.

I kinda got blindsided by someone that seemed to think that I was less of a person to shop , or even work at walmart.

I am sorry, but this just seems ridiculous to me, here is what was written:

oh well, I'll gladly miss out on these "Sales" thank god I never go into a wallmart or kmart...........a whole different breed of folk live, shop, and work there.

I'll pay a local smaller biz more money for product then sell out to Wally World. I've read and heard too many stories of the employees at Walmart that can't even afford to shop at their own store making minimum wages. Sorry, but yeah it's the down fall of american society in my opinion.

The only thing in this world under my control is my wallet. Shop smart people.

If you dont want to shop there that is fine, but when you say that you would gladly spend more somwhere else than go to a big store and then want to tell everyone to "shop smart", it seems to me you pretty much just put your foot in your mouth. I live in a small town and I do enjoy walking into my bank and everyone knowing my name , and I enjoy going to the gas and deli just above my house, and talking to everyone there, and grabbin a drink or bag of chips there, but I dont buy my gas, and wont buy groceries there, it costs to much.

I think the problem with alot of people that are ussually broke all the time is the fact that they never learned how to try to make a dollar go as far as it can. And most people that have money are more frugal than those who dont.

I have a airstrip on my land and a buddy of mine , was trying to talk our small town into building an airport with a large enough runway to allow coporate jets and such to land on it, because it would make our town better for large bussiness types to fly in and start a factory or to check on one that they already have, it would have been an excellent thing for our towns economy, because it would have made us accesible to larger company. This is the thing that ticked me off the most about not getting the airport, the town council here is made up of alot of the bussiness owners, and they said that if big bussiness moved into our town, they would have to pay there employees more so they would'nt go to the newer companies.

Its not just walmart folks, it's everywhere,, ITS GREED.

how dare you say that someone is less of a person than you for working at walmart! I don't work there but I know several people that do, and they live rite around me, and I consider them good people.

last thing I'll say about this, is back to the word smart you used, How can you tell people to shop smart when you said you would gladly avoid these sales, and yes I am sure you are in control of your wallet, and I am sorry to hear that.

wel I am sure that this will be taken off of here but the longer I think about what was said , the more frustrated I get, so I just had to say something.

yall have a good weekend, and I will leave you with a quote I like someone has as thier signature,, it goes somthin like this: better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are ignorant, than to open it and remove all doubt.

 

[dingle]

Amen brother Krusher!

 

[richtee]

I found that post annoying as well. There seems a trend here.

 

[cowgirl]

I found the post rather tasteless too.
Krusher, hat's off to ya.

 

[waysideranch]

I'm with ya Krusher.

 

[t-bone tim]

I'm with he above fine folkes too on this one also krusher , here's to you

 

[waysideranch]

I went back and read that thread again. I think its a mixed bag. I think he beleives they are under paid (true). They sell stuff made in china (true) and for the rest of it well it whatever you think. i shop at walmart, but very rarely only because is to busy for me and i like mom & pop..

 

[richtee]

Still...there's no cause to denigrate folks or be condescending in your comments such as I feel was done. I guess I can't hope to live up to Heap's ideals, but I seem to do OK around my "breed" of folk.

 

[douglaslizard]

i shop at wal mart and my wife works at lowes i dont feel like that makes us any less of good people.so im with you however every has there own opinon just like the old saying about opinions and ***holes

 

[heapomeat]

I'll stick to my words that Walmart is stealing money from the mom and pop shops that have been supporting the small towns for years. That was my only intent. And no, me or my friends don't shop there because we're smart enough to see the damage.

If it counts for anything, the town I live is is about population 4000. I'll gladly pay 10 cents more per 2x4 board at the Coast to Coast or Ace hardware local store 5 minutes away where they know me by name, instead of driving 20 miles to the big Home Depot or Lowes where they don't have crap for customer service, and it costs me $16 in gas money to drive there. All to save a couple bucks on "cheaper" goods?

Anything else you read into my post, means that you're digging way deeper into your own insecurities or value system and wasn't the intent at all.......so fine, support China.

but flame away.

Krusher in his post tried to say and spell......

"last nite"? you mean night?

"I satred" you mean started?

"I don't work at walmart but I know people that do and they live rite around me" you mean Right around me?

wow. Well I will let your own apples fall not far from the tree.


So if you want to read more about the global impact of wallmart, which was my only intent, then read on:

there has been a rising level of alarm over what might be called the "Wal-Mart in China" syndrome. It runs like this: American companies set up manufacturing operations in China, drawn by a huge pool of incredibly cheap labor that assures the lowest prices on finished products. Wal-Mart buys their goods and has them shipped to the United States.
The prices at which Wal-Mart sells goods in the United States are estimated to drive two local supermarkets out of business for every Supercenter the company opens. There are 1,000 more centers planned to open during the next five years in addition to the company's 4,750 existing outlets.
The process feeds on itself. Low prices increase market share, which leads to more pricing power. Analysts project that half the market for many grocery and sundry items will be in Wal-Mart's hands when its current expansion plan is complete.
Basic elements in the syndrome are beyond dispute: the flight of manufacturing jobs offshore in a "race to the bottom" based on cheap labor; below poverty-line pay and high turnover in Wal-Mart's U.S. work force; community disruption as the company drives out hundreds of competitors who paid a living wage.
The issue has spiked because evidence supporting each part of the case has become vivid:

• Among economic analysts, a crescendo of voices warns that millions of manufacturing jobs are not coming back as they did after previous recessions.
• Some 40 labor lawsuits charge Wal-Mart with forcing employees to work overtime, and one gender-discrimination case could be the largest civil rights class-action suit ever.
• More states and communities are taking the approach of Vermont, which has four Wal-Marts -- the fewest in any state. Resistance is driven by examples such as Oklahoma City, where 30 supermarkets have closed since Wal-Mart saturated the area.

Yes, Microsoft was told by the federal court to desist from certain practices. But the less-than-draconian legal outcome was premised on the notion that consumers can ultimately take a walk if they don't want to become dependent on one company's offerings.
That is also the issue with Wal-Mart. But the danger is much greater because it strikes closer to the heart of the American psyche. The proposition runs something like this:
As a matter of record, Americans are the hardest-working people on earth. We have struck a bargain with ourselves that some would find strange -- work till you drop, and then as a reward, shop till you drop.
Americans find the process of acquiring material goods to be cathartic, relaxing, exhilarating. It is the preferred form of recreation.
The wicked hook in the Wal-Mart equation is that, increasingly, those who choose to buy at Wal-Mart will be forced to buy at Wal-Mart. The provider of the lowest price will pay the lowest wage to those who make its goods and those who sell them. This wage structure will ripple through the economy in the form of lost manufacturing jobs and retail pay below the poverty line.
The ultimate logic of the process is clear: when a nation makes the lowest price an overriding criterion, it will reach a point where it can only afford to buy at that price.
The question is whether Americans can resist being drawn into the downward spiral. We seemingly can't stop shopping, so we can't stop looking for the lowest price. Rising real costs for housing, health care and education add inescapable expenses to discretionary ones. Personal debt is at record levels and the bankruptcy rate stands at 12 times where it was in the Great Depression.
Seen from an angle that offers any perspective, the growing addiction to Wal-Mart is a threat to our economic future. Yet, never has a problem been so clearly within our power to solve, for it lies within the realm of consumer choice.
Last year, 82 percent of Americans made at least one purchase at Wal-Mart. Nobody forced them to do it. And no one is going to stop doing it unless they realize what's at stake. The odds for an awakening aren't great. The required change involves not just attitudes about where to shop, but toward consumerism itself. So long as there is an insatiable desire to shop, the lure of lowest price may prove irresistible -- regardless of the consequences.

 

[krusher]

I guess the balls in my court, well..

looks like I get to use that ignore option.

did I spell that right

 

[monty]

Well, folks, I feel I have to chime in here.

Seems like we all have an opinion on the subject and that we are not afraid to express it. Cool!

However, I also am of the opinion that our attention to this subject is raising more ire than interest.

So, in the interest of keeping the forum civil and apolitical, I am going to close this thread. It is getting us nowhere and is creating more trouble than it is worth. Let's pay more attention to the reason this forum exists.

If the subject matter should arise in another thread I will take whatever action is necessary to return our forum to its non political stance, first amendment rights considered.

I will leave this thread avalable and open for all to read so as not to impinge upon the right of free expression but I will curtail further comment in the interest of the SMF!

Thank You!