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jasonvr

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This is my 5th total smoke on my Gen1 MES30.  1 butt, 2x brisket, 1x faux burnt ends

Got a 8lb butt at Stater Bros on sale for 1.99/lb.  Smoking it up for a Memorial Day gathering.  Friend (who has recently gotten into competition BBQ) is doing a brisket on their pellet smoker.

Using my AMNPS with a 50/50 mix of Apple/Hickory.  Added a 1/2 foil pan over the AMNPS as a grease shield per Bear's suggestion.  Have two foil wrapped fire brick inside for thermal mass.

Having a lot of problems getting a good chamber temp on this smoke so far (went in at 11:15pm, now 2.5 hours in).  Previously I found that if I kept adjusting the temp, I eventually ended up with the MES set to what I actually wanted it to be (i.e. if I was shooting for 230, the MES got set at 230). Temps are being checked by my Maverick ET-733.  I now have connected on the underside of the rack holding the butt, but pulled to the front of the smoker (not directly under the meat).  The second is dangling slightly above the meat.  I've now had to bump the smoker temp all the way to 260 and both probes are reading in the 221-228 range which is more or less where I was shooting for.  I've never had to bump it this high, but I usually have the probe on the same rack as the meat all the way at the back (trying something different this time).  I'm wondering if maybe my longer than expected cook times are because of this (i.e. the temp around the meat was actually much lower than I thought due to probe placement at the rear).  It would certainly explain a lot.

Anyways, here's the butt and after seasoning.  Coated with yellow mustard and then a rub using a recipe from a friend.  More pics as the cook proceeds.


 
 
That meat maybe throwing your probes off being that close to it
Richie
Is that really a possibility?? I quite often have the same problem with my MES 30 GEN 1. I have my cook chamber probe mounted to the bottom of the grate (at the back) I'm cooking on.

Gary
Gary I have seen it on my MES and even on my WSM when I put a big piece of meat in

Richie
 
OK, woke up at about 8am.  Meat temp was at 167.  Chamber temp was running a bit high (for my liking) at 240.  So, lowered the MES temp to 250 (was at 260), opened up briefly to take pics and sprtiz with a bit of apple juice.  Chamber temp now at about 233 which is good for me.  Given that people are going to arrive at about 3:30 (about 6.5 hours away at this point), I don't think I'm going to need a crutch on this.  Just gonna let it ride out and when it gets to about 200, I'll pull it out, wrap it in foil, and then into towels in a cooler under ready to shred.

Also, I swear my AMNPS is psychic and knows exactly when I go to sleep in order to go out.  I had checked on it at 1:15 before starting a couch nap and it was going fine.  Made a slight adjustment to the chip dumper. Woke up again at 3am and I put the temp probe into the meat (reading 131).  Checked the AMNPS and it was still going fine.  It had rounded the first corner and was burning down the second row.  When I woke up this morning that's exactly where it seems to have stopped!  I made no adjustments to airflow at that point.  It just knew I went to sleep and  said its night was done...

Anyways, pics from 8am.  More to come later.  Considering adding some chorizo ABTs to go along with the feast, but not sure yet.  Gotta decide soon though since I need to go buy  everything and get them into the smoker...


 
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I'm 20 1/2 hours in on the MES myself and didn't use the Texas crutch with current meat temp at 186F.   Got a full shoulder, Boston butt, 8lb and 7lb using applewood and hickory at 225F.  Smells incredible!
 
Well, I just threw out my no-crutch plan.  1:30pm and it was only at 187....  Need to leave some time to rest so I wrapped and put it back in.  I would raise the temp, but I just put in a batch of ABTs as well (first time and kind of my own recipe w/ Mexican chorizo, so I'll have to post that separately...assuming they turn out)
 

No foil, 15 lbs (8 lbs/7 lbs) pulled at 190 F after 25 hours. Pulled apart perfectly. It is possible the thermometer is not calibrated but it is very close. Most fat was melt in your mouth delicious. Everyone is in a meat coma now!
 
I eventually even pulled it from the smoker and finished in the oven at 300.  Got it up to 200, then toweled and put in the cooler.  Got to rest for almost 2 hours I think.  Didn't get a photo before pulling, but this is the pulled result


Quite tasty!  And the best part - leftovers!!!
 
JasonVR, 

Make sure you are cleaning the two sensors inside the smoker chamber. Use a mixture of vinegar and water, they will clean up very easily. If they get too caked they will not correctly read the chamber temp. The placement won't be the same as the pic but that is what you are looking for.

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Good work on the butts guys!

I'm convinced the temp issues with the MES are simply caused by lack of uniform airflow.  If you put a probe over a big chunk of meat you may not get the airflow to that probe due to the meat kind of blocking  the air flow to the probe.

The lower/lowest racks get more heat than the higher racks.  This info is helpful, especially when you want to try and get more heat on stuff like chicken skin.

I have gone as far as to put a convection fan in my MES40 and I believe it has helped quite a bit BUT it still cannot completely overcome airflow restriction when I put in a medium to heavy load on two racks or more of my smoker.  The uneven heat is just something to battle with is all :)

I hope this info helps.
 
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