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Why move to a place that you can't drink the water?
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Rings Я Us
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People should never have to buy water. Stores shouldn't sell it. Companies shouldn't get filthy rich from snatching it out of the ground.
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Ring,
You do have a strong opinion about bottled water.
Do you know there are bars selling oxygen?
Companies sell whatever they can to make money: oxygen, water, dirt. Or they ask you to pay them to remove water or dirt from your property. Should these businesses be banned? Because of a principle?
You are travelling and thirsty ...what do you do? Look for a store selling reusable water bottles? Or if you carry one look for a public washroom to fill it? Or you just grab a bottle from a vending machine/street vendor?
You do have a strong opinion about bottled water.
Do you know there are bars selling oxygen?
Companies sell whatever they can to make money: oxygen, water, dirt. Or they ask you to pay them to remove water or dirt from your property. Should these businesses be banned? Because of a principle?
You are travelling and thirsty ...what do you do? Look for a store selling reusable water bottles? Or if you carry one look for a public washroom to fill it? Or you just grab a bottle from a vending machine/street vendor?
Rings Я Us
Smoking Guru
I don't buy water , I would never put myself in a position to have to pay for it or rely on stores.
Rings Я Us
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You would also see a Uhaul truck in front of my house with a weeks notice of a bad storm. I would drive 75% of my junk out of the storms path and use 2 storage units if I had to. Then after the storm when it's all clear, move my junk and kids or whoever back in. I would rent a place 200 miles away if I had to. You wouldn't see me in a boat being rescued or in lines for crap at the stores. My butt would be where the stores were fully stocked. If I came back to check on the house before water and electric services were on, I would have 60 gallons of water clean from a tap with me. Family still safe in the temporarily tented place near the storage units not under water. [emoji]128556[/emoji]
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Wow!
With a few comments Rings comes off as a liar and espousing Marxist/Commie anti-capitalism ideas.
This topic was never meant as a fun debate/discussion, nope, there was a hidden liberal agenda that came to a head like a huge festering carbuncle.
Obviously clean, potable water that taste good is a Human Right, and how dare private enterprise make a dime off of it.
Perhaps that should only be the domain of government?
How dare people sell containers for it, the government should distribute them for free.
That is to say, on the taxpayers dime.
If you don't like it, don't buy it.
That one rant earns you persona non grata status.
With a few comments Rings comes off as a liar and espousing Marxist/Commie anti-capitalism ideas.
This topic was never meant as a fun debate/discussion, nope, there was a hidden liberal agenda that came to a head like a huge festering carbuncle.
Obviously clean, potable water that taste good is a Human Right, and how dare private enterprise make a dime off of it.
Perhaps that should only be the domain of government?
How dare people sell containers for it, the government should distribute them for free.
That is to say, on the taxpayers dime.
If you don't like it, don't buy it.
That one rant earns you persona non grata status.
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You don't get weeks notice for a hurricane. You get less than a week, typically 3-5 days if you want accurate forecast. If you uhaul your junk everytime a hurricane forms in the African Atlantic (where Irma formed) you would be on the road for the whole summer-fall and spend a lot more $ than you would on bottled water.
Tap water, guess what, you pay for it/buy it via taxes and usage.
And it isn't inexpensive either.
And it isn't inexpensive either.
Rings Я Us
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You see the roads there are all grid lock.. I would have been the 1st out.
Would be no next time.. would move to where I am now. Michigan. [emoji]128587[/emoji]
[emoji]128514[/emoji] We know a few days in advance if we will be having storms. Electric can be out for a couple days in winter.
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Rings Я Us
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mine is included in rent. When I did have a water bill it was about $25.00 a month. Mostly for sewage and municipal fees not actual usage. nope.. not buying bottled . [emoji]128514[/emoji]
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How about you make up your mind, and stop talking from between the wrong two cheeks?
In one post you'd move 75% of your belongings and family into storage and tents, then move back when the coast was clear.
In another you say you'd never move back.
You're so full of excrement.
Why don't you just say what you really want to say.
That some people are stupid, and you're so smart.
In one post you'd move 75% of your belongings and family into storage and tents, then move back when the coast was clear.
In another you say you'd never move back.
You're so full of excrement.
Why don't you just say what you really want to say.
That some people are stupid, and you're so smart.
Rings Я Us
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oh.. I meant if I were them I would move my stuff and myself out fast. Personally I would not live there after one hurricane. I like winter though..and fall. Not into hot hot..
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Rings Я Us
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The whole point of my topic.. 40 years ago , who would think anyone would ever be buying water? 40 years ago who would have thought of lines in a store to buy water? Or news stories about lines outside stores for water? I could see gas and milk or canned food running out. But to see so many people worried about bottled water just fascinates me. I feel badly for those that need to buy water. And the hurricane people..
Ohhhhmmmmm. Ohhhhmmmmm. Lets all just chill before the administrators shut down the thread and start administrating.
Marketing and the media have changed people's perception of tap water over the last 40-50 years. That's capitalism; supply, marketing, and demand. The profit margins in bottled water are astronomical. The Swiss company Nestle pays $546 a year to the Federal government to take tens of millions of gallons of water annually out of a mountain creek here in CA. They make hundreds of millions of dollars from that cheap water source, and the drought we had for many years did not stop them. Even when people brought it to the attention of the state and local governments, their response was "well, in the grand scheme of things, it is such small amount of the total water used by the state." Meanwhile the same government officials were telling us not to flush our toilets to save water. It was truly hysterical.
I have water stored in my garage, but it isn't in plastic bottles. Several years ago, when my wife and I went to the desert to participate in an art festival you might have heard of, Burning Man, it just didn't make sense to take bottled water for the five gallons a day we'd need to bathe, drink, cook, and clean. The festival is all about leaving no trace and radical self reliance. A bunch of empty plastic bottles that I had to haul off the playa seemed to contradict the spirit of Burning Man. My solution? Inexpensive 5 gallon mylar water bladders filled from the tap, kept secure inside HD buckets with lids. Worked beautifully for the week for all our water needs, supplemented by melt water from the ice in our coolers to bathe (heated in solar showers). I still change out the water stored in the garage once or twice a year, sanitizing the bladders before they are refilled. Who knows when we might need it?
People who need emergency water, who haven't prepared with storage containers, don't have too many options other than bottled water, especially if they can't think outside the box (bathtubs, ice chests, Tupperware containers, Ziplock bags, HD buckets, etc).
Water, the essence of life, especially when used to make beer.
Marketing and the media have changed people's perception of tap water over the last 40-50 years. That's capitalism; supply, marketing, and demand. The profit margins in bottled water are astronomical. The Swiss company Nestle pays $546 a year to the Federal government to take tens of millions of gallons of water annually out of a mountain creek here in CA. They make hundreds of millions of dollars from that cheap water source, and the drought we had for many years did not stop them. Even when people brought it to the attention of the state and local governments, their response was "well, in the grand scheme of things, it is such small amount of the total water used by the state." Meanwhile the same government officials were telling us not to flush our toilets to save water. It was truly hysterical.
I have water stored in my garage, but it isn't in plastic bottles. Several years ago, when my wife and I went to the desert to participate in an art festival you might have heard of, Burning Man, it just didn't make sense to take bottled water for the five gallons a day we'd need to bathe, drink, cook, and clean. The festival is all about leaving no trace and radical self reliance. A bunch of empty plastic bottles that I had to haul off the playa seemed to contradict the spirit of Burning Man. My solution? Inexpensive 5 gallon mylar water bladders filled from the tap, kept secure inside HD buckets with lids. Worked beautifully for the week for all our water needs, supplemented by melt water from the ice in our coolers to bathe (heated in solar showers). I still change out the water stored in the garage once or twice a year, sanitizing the bladders before they are refilled. Who knows when we might need it?
People who need emergency water, who haven't prepared with storage containers, don't have too many options other than bottled water, especially if they can't think outside the box (bathtubs, ice chests, Tupperware containers, Ziplock bags, HD buckets, etc).
Water, the essence of life, especially when used to make beer.
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I run a watershed advocacy group and that puts me at the table in quarterly meetings with the Division of Water officials in the public utilities department of Columbus. They have been making huge investments in new water treatment technologies (plural) to counteract various problems like agricultural chemicals and algae blooms. Some of their methods are filtration, sterilization and even UV radiation. They can also pull tricks like changing the water intake levels at the reservoir. They can kill any bugs/germs but sometimes they can't completely get rid of an "off flavor" from the algae. You may recall that Toledo had to shut down their system a few years ago due to toxins from algae.
Our water is OK to drink, sometimes it has a faint whiff of chemicals. We're on limestone bedrock so it can leave a bit of calcium residue when it dries.
One thing you might consider is capturing your rain runoff instead of paying to pour chlorinated water on your gardens. I have two rain barrels and a reserve barrel (plastic trash can) so I can store about 150 gallons of water - not potable but good for the gardens. This pic was taken during a rain; the flash turned the raindrops into white dots.
I say I'm in Columbus but I'm not within city limits, so our water comes from Columbus through a middleman agency. We have three people in this house and a quarterly water/sewer bill is typically ~$250. According to our neighborhood discussion board, some people pay MUCH more. I can help to keep my cost down because i have enough privacy to pee in my back yard.
Just don't splash the smoker.
Our water is OK to drink, sometimes it has a faint whiff of chemicals. We're on limestone bedrock so it can leave a bit of calcium residue when it dries.
One thing you might consider is capturing your rain runoff instead of paying to pour chlorinated water on your gardens. I have two rain barrels and a reserve barrel (plastic trash can) so I can store about 150 gallons of water - not potable but good for the gardens. This pic was taken during a rain; the flash turned the raindrops into white dots.
I say I'm in Columbus but I'm not within city limits, so our water comes from Columbus through a middleman agency. We have three people in this house and a quarterly water/sewer bill is typically ~$250. According to our neighborhood discussion board, some people pay MUCH more. I can help to keep my cost down because i have enough privacy to pee in my back yard.
Rings Я Us
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Can't we all just get along? [emoji]128077[/emoji] this place and all the characters make me crack up. [emoji]128556[/emoji] I promise to be a cordially cooperative concubine character
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