Weber Smokey Mountain issue

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mark a

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Jun 30, 2014
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Morrisville, PA
So here was the situation guys. I decided to try and smoke my first two beer can chickens this past weekend and ran into an issue getting my smoker up to temp. I was cooking for nine, as the family came over for football and beer... a lot of beer.

Up until then, I had only made ribs and some bacon wrapped shrimp in that baby and never had an issue coming up to temp or maintaining it... granted I’m only up to around 235 or so. I put plenty of Weber briquettes in using the minion method and filled up my chimney about 3/4 of the way and fired them up. Dumped them into the smoker and we were off. I made some shrimp wrapped in bacon and had it around 235 for 30 minutes or so, took em off and opened the vents hoping to get her up to 300. I threw the chickens on right away, anticipating the temp to rise pretty quickly but I couldn’t get the damn thing above 260. I waited about 20 minutes and decided to throw on a few more coals that I got going in the chimney again (which I immediately regretted after I saw my chicken get a nice layer of soot from the rising embers...rookie mistake). I had noticed that one side of my coals didn’t seem to light after the first round was dumped in. I had discovered that two of the three vents were almost completely closed and I figured that was the reason I coudnt get it up to temp. I decided to then remove my water pan and watched the temp skyrocket to over 350 in a matter of minutes. I closed the vents a bit but couldn’t get it down, so back went the water pan. It finally stabilized at around 305 ish for the remainder of the cook. I was surprised to see the chicken turned out pretty good, even with the heating issues. It was still moist, but the skin definitely wasn’t as crispy as I had hoped. I think if I inject (which I meant to do but completely forgot, there is an awful lot going on when you’re cooking on the smoker!) next time it will be even better.

I’m not sure how long the coals were going before I noticed the closed vents, but I would say it was almost surely a half hour at most. Would this be long enough to almost choke the fire out? I guess it was either the closed vents, or I didn’t give the coals ample time in the chimney before dumping them in.

The temp was a mild 65 degrees or so, overcast/drizzle throughout the cook with a pretty decent breeze. Thanks for the feedback. Sorry guys... with everything going on, I forgot the pics!
 
Well, THAT was an entertaining read.

Here's a little WSM experience talking. When walking out to your smoker to get ready for a smoke: Step one: SET ALL YOUR VENTS where they need to be. Top full open, bottoms variable depending on target temp. I do it before I even load my WSM with charcoal and wood. Why? Because there's been more than once I forgot and started a smoke with the vents closed or set wrong.

If you are doing a hot n fast smoke, no water in the water pan and all vents full open. Dry smoke. Water keeps the temp down. You don't say if your water pan was loaded, but if it was, you'll be lucky to get to 275F.

Next time will be betta!
 
I keep 2 of the 3 vents fully closed to maintain 225-250 with no water. I open all three to cook chicken at 300+. This is with an 18.5, but it should be similar with a 22.

Mike
 
Well, THAT was an entertaining read.

Here's a little WSM experience talking. When walking out to your smoker to get ready for a smoke: Step one: SET ALL YOUR VENTS where they need to be. Top full open, bottoms variable depending on target temp. I do it before I even load my WSM with charcoal and wood. Why? Because there's been more than once I forgot and started a smoke with the vents closed or set wrong.

If you are doing a hot n fast smoke, no water in the water pan and all vents full open. Dry smoke. Water keeps the temp down. You don't say if your water pan was loaded, but if it was, you'll be lucky to get to 275F.

Next time will be betta!

Lol, I figured I’d explain it as best i could. The water pan was indeed full. I just wasn’t comfortable not using it as I saw the temp go crazy when i removed it. I have the 18” for full disclosure.
 
I too do as Ray/noboundaries does at startup.Once you use it for a few more smokes you will get your "settings".If you read some of my threads I say -because that's where it wanted to run- this is a product of knowing your "settings".If the smoker settles in at 265* say,when I'm cooking a butt and I wanted it at 275* so be it,close enough.You can surely fine tune it but normally I don't bother.I also use a 1/4" steel plate in lieu of a water pan.
 
Sounds like a fun day at marka house. When starting my WSM 22 I have all the vents both top and bottom wide open. As the temp starts to rise and I'm within 30 or so degrees from my target temp. I will start closing down the bottom vents until I reach my target. My smoker likes to run at 250*ish. I haven't used water in my pan for a couple of years. Also you said you used 3/4 of a Weber chimney of lit coals. To me that's to much. I usually start with barely a 1/4 of a chimney. It's easier to gradually build up your temp, then to bring it down if it gets away from you. Also if it's windy out control your temps with the vent that's on the opposite side of the direction the wind is coming from.

Chris
 
That's just all learning curves right there... Your intuition is spot on, and all good advice above. A couple of things I would add- Don't be afraid of cooking bird at 350-400' on your WSM. In fact it turns out wonderfully crispy skin bird! Secondly, I have found I can do a full bird cook on about 3/4 of a chimney and have some left over without doing or needing the minion method. (However, this is with a Mini WSM) Its a hot and fast cook vs low and slow, so you don't need any more unlit coals for minion. I have learned how to gauge how much fuel I will need to get through a cook- plus a little more. Smoker seems to breath better and coals burn a bit cleaner and vent adjustments are more controlled. I never use water either. In fact with doing a whole bird like that I like to take diffuser out completely for more direct heat. And those chicken fat drips in the charcoal though!!!! Flavor!!!!
 
I'm licking my lips as we speak Ray! I have roasted 2 birds already this week yet I still want more! I'm addicted to the slaughterhouse brine or injection with a new chicken rub/seasoning of my own I am perfecting. I think I've got it pretty close to perfect for our tastes. Mrs BEV said so, so it must be true. :rolleyes:

2T Johnny's Season Salt
1T Garlic powder
1t sage
1t thyme
1t Black pepper
1t Cajun Seasoning
 
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