They were great, everybody ate them before I could take a picture. I used a chuck roast that was on sale at my local meat counter, ground it all up, about five pounds. For spices I used kosher salt, white pepper, sugar, paprika, crushed caraway seed, ground celery seed, crushed coriander, mace, crushed mustard seed, and nutmeg. I used medium hog casing. If you want more detail of measurements I can send out.