Thumb's down on the oven finishing method for butt

Discussion in 'Pork' started by kybluesmanluvsbbq, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. Well I caved in and tried the oven finishing method this weekend. Did a 7.5 lb butt. Smoked it on the SS until meat temp was 140 then double wrapped it in foil and cooked it in the oven at 225 until meat temp was 195.

    The flavor was delicious. I attest that to the smoking process. I tend my fire like a worried parent doting over a sick child. The consistency was very very tender. It almost pulled itself.

    What I didn't like was that I, and my wife, thought it was too greasy. We love juicy, we don't like greasy. Finishing the last half of the cooking process in the oven seemed to leave a little too much fat and grease. Maybe I should have left it in the oven until the meat temp was 205-208 as Jeff suggested in one of his articles. I don't know.

    What does everyone else think of finishing a butt in the oven? Tender yes, flavorful yes, but greasy is gross. Thoughts?
     
  2. flash

    flash Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I usually shoot for 205º but maybe upping your cooking temps to 250 or even 275º might help break down the fat better.
     
  3. fatback joe

    fatback joe Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I am a member of AOL

    Anti Oven League [​IMG]
     
  4. meowey

    meowey Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I would smoke it to 165°F internal temp and then foil and finish at 200-205°F. I have finished in the o**n and not found it to be greasy.

    Hope this helps!

    Take care, have fun, and do good!

    Regards,

    Meowey
     
  5. smoking gun

    smoking gun Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    I take mine to at least 165 on the pit but I have finished them in the oven (to 205). Pulled them and cleaned out the goo and stored in zip locks. I'll usually warm the meat up in a 200 degree oven in a roasting pan until the tips of the meat are slightly dry and to me it's just about perfect. I do like my PP sammiches with a squirt of BBQ sauce. I also use SoFlaQuer's finishing sauce when I first pull the meat. Only thing that tops it so far has been the brisket.

    We're learning. :)

    SG
     
  6. lcruzen

    lcruzen Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    If your foiling the meat I don't see how finishing in the oven is any different than finishing in the smoker. 225o heat would be the same.
     
  7. div

    div Smoking Fanatic

    haha thats to funny
     
  8. solar

    solar Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    The square metal electric hot box in my kitchen is only good for frozen pizzas and bread. [​IMG]

    I have a friend who still broils his steaks in his MEHB, and they're not cheap cuts either.
     
  9. bwsmith_2000

    bwsmith_2000 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Take the butt to at least 165* before foiling and I think you'll be a lot happier. Also, as noted above, don't forget to use Fl Quer's finishing sauce. It really makes pulled pork.
     
  10. richtee

    richtee Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I'm with Meowey. Smoke to at least 165. And if ya like, try putting the butt on a rack in the pan to lift it above the melting out grease.
     
  11. crewdawg52

    crewdawg52 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I'm a member of the "Lets Do It The Easy Way" Club. Temps are temps. Doesn't matter if in the oven or smoker. The meat is FOIL WRAPPED. And, if in the oven, no worrying about spikes, or burning extra fuel.
     
  12. white cloud

    white cloud Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    yep what most said, Heat is heat but technique is key. Try it again with what you just learned before turning away from the poor oven. Oh; and let us know.
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  13. pineywoods

    pineywoods Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead SMF Premier Member

    I finish in the oven more than on the smoker and as was already said foil at 165* and after that heat is heat. If it was foiled you would have had the same results in the smoker as you did in the oven
     
  14. bbq bubba

    bbq bubba Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Awaiting my membership packet.......[​IMG]
     
  15. fatback joe

    fatback joe Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    It is pending review of your pork procedure. LOL [​IMG]
     
  16. never finished in the oven myself but i have heard of people cooking in the crock pot and adding liquid smoke .if your shooting for the easy way i cant see it getting any easier.myself i enjoy tending the meat til its done but to each their own
     
  17. nick

    nick Meat Mopper

    If that was the FIRST time you finished in the oven, maybe you just got an extra fatty pork butt this time. I do agree though if ya bring it to 165 degrees on the smoker, more fat will be rendered before it hits the oven.
    Good luck with the next one!
     
  18. walking dude

    walking dude Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    I, myself, am ANTI-AOL..........lol........pisspoor isp, imho........

    that said..........like the sane folks said here........ =), i smoke to 170 myself, then foil. I am not rich, like most of the AOL crowd....loll........can't afford to keep putting fuel into my ecb. So i foil, then oven.
     
  19. dennisdocb

    dennisdocb Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Ditto Dude..I smoke to min 165, no less..sometimes 170 before I get it foiled..Why waste fuel when it's not going add anything once it's foiled..as said heat is heat..I set my oven to finish at 240 and don't go by the oven dial..I found that (at least mine) is not accurate. I have to set my oven dial at 225.. which after the spike, 290-300, for about 15 seconds, then falls off until it kicks the burner back on at 235. No grease and pretty much all fat has melted away..very juicy not greasy...Just my .02..works for me..hopes this helps.

    BTW..I do set mine in a pan on a rack then foil,keeps it out of grease and makes for some good finishing sauce when defatted
     
  20. ronp

    ronp Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    If you took it to 160' 170' much of the grease would have rendered out. Then all you would have left is mostly juices. Heat is heat, the meat doesn't know any better.

    That's what I like about my MES, once I hit temps I can foil, set at 190' 200' and go to bed till morning.

    No, not lazy, just economical, no need to waste your fuel.

    Oh, did you trim much outside fat?

    No pics makes it hard to know what happened.
     

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