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The Stall What is It (Long Post)

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The subject of meat stall has been on my mind lately and there has been some discussion in other threads that have swerved into the subject. So I thought we could have a open discussion about the Stall specifically, what causes it, how to beat it and how it differs from whole muscle meat to sausage but also how it all may be similar. All input and experience is welcome, questions too.

As most of us all know, the stall happens when meat moisture is pushed to the surface and causes evaporation cooling. We first must understand what causes it to understand how to beat it. In whole muscle bbq or sausage the cause is the same but they appear differently and show up at different temperatures.

The Cause:
Is collagen.

Meat fibers are bundled like wires and wrapped in collagen, these wrapped bundles are connected with connective tissue. This is the purpose of cutting or slicing meat against the grain to in effect shorten these bundles for a bite and good chew. When we start the cook process thermal energy pushes into the meat causing the internal temperature to rise. As the temperature rises, the collagen wrapped around the meat bundles begins to constrict, in effect squeezing the ~75% moisture in the meat bundles out. This actually begins in the 120’s internal temperature range, and generally stops around 170ish. As the temp rises the collagen constriction increases squeezing even more moisture out.

In whole muscle meats like brisket and pork butts we see the extracted moisture come to surface and pool on the meat exterior. This in turn evaporates and causes a cooling effect on the surface stopping internal temp rise until all the moisture is squeezed out and the meat is relatively dry inside, at this point the internal temp can begin to rise again. We can stop this effect by wrapping in butcher paper or foil to stop the evaporative effect and push past the stall. Easy enough.

But what about sausage? It’s a bit different since it’s already wrapped in a casing. So one might think the stall would be more manageable in sausage but in my experience it’s a bit more complicated than that. The meat inside the sausage, while cut into small bits, is still largely the same structure just smaller than a whole muscle piece. So collagen plays the same roll here and squeezes the meat bundles and causes moisture extraction. Even though the meat is ground it’s cased so the effect is basically same as whole muscle.

Trouble is that this evaporative effect isn’t visible per se on the surface of sausage like it is in bbq. None the less, a lot of evaporation occurs and starts actually in the 120’s internal temp and accelerates approaching 130’s. Here we can start to see temp stall especially if the smoker is overloaded. As we start increasing smoker temps to push over we now risk another problem,

Dry Ring:

In the laws of physics, every action has an opposite and equal reaction. When we apply thermal energy (heat) to meat there is an opposite and equal reaction inside the meat. This is the stall. As we try to overcome the stall it’s very easy to cause dry ring on sausage or meats. This is where the thermal energy finally overcomes surface moisture aided by air flow, this dries the surface of the meat. This in effect seals the remaining moisture inside and starts deflecting the thermal energy outside. This stops thermal (temperature) rise inside the meat. Stall.

In sausage, my experience is to try to avoid the dry ring if possible, if not then a water finish either by poach or SV is a good answer.

Bbq meats though, are also effected by a dry ring potential. This is why a lot of old timers used mops or spritzing to moisten the surface, and of course why the “Texas crutch” of wrapping came about. Not only to stop the evaporation effect but also the dry ring effect. Some may have even experienced a second stall somewhere in the mid 180’s to low 190’s, my experience is dry ring as the cause.

These are just my thoughts and experiences. What say you? Thank you if you made it this far.
 
One of the things I like about SMF is the fact I learn so much. This is a nicely presented and very clear write-up on Stall. Thank you for putting this up here. I look forward to seeing some of the additional input and expertise so many on SMF have to offer.
 
Great write up Eric. 👍
This is one reason I dont use a water pan throughout the whole cook anymore, at least with brisket or pork shoulder. That extra moisture that is added during that stall period only prolongs the stall. Now ill add a little water at the beginning to a drip pan, and once its gone, its gone.
 
One of the things I like about SMF is the fact I learn so much. This is a nicely presented and very clear write-up on Stall. Thank you for putting this up here. I look forward to seeing some of the additional input and expertise so many on SMF have to offer.
Thank you Jim. I’m hoping for a lot of input that can help others be more successful.

Great write up Eric. 👍
This is one reason I dont use a water pan throughout the whole cook anymore, at least with brisket or pork shoulder. That extra moisture that is added during that stall period only prolongs the stall. Now ill add a little water at the beginning to a drip pan, and once its gone, its gone.
Thank you John,
Adding water moisture to bbq is a bit counter intuitive in some ways. Water vapor cannot exceed 212F at sea level without added pressure and for us at altitude it’s right around 200F so trying to run a pit in the ~250 range it’s self defeating. However, if the meat forms a dry shell (case hardening, or dry ring) from low surface moisture of the meat you will see a secondary stall at around high 180’s to low 190’s internal temp. This dry surface must be stopped before it establishes, otherwise there isn’t much to do but be frustrated at the temp stall. Heat from hot air does not transfer well at all through dry meat surface.

Nice writeup Eric. If I'm pressed for time, I'll wrap, but I try to allow myself enough time not to. Otherwise it's keep on cooking and let the meat push through the stall. It's done when it's done...
Thank you Charles, if you have good ambient humidity you can get away with that for sure, nothing wrong with that.
 
Thank you Charles, if you have good ambient humidity you can get away with that for sure, nothing wrong with that.
Here in SC, the humidity is rarely below 60%. Right now it's 88℉ with a "feels like" temp of 103℉ and the humidity is 79% and it's only going to get worse. Welcome to summer in the south...
 
Great write up Eric. 👍
This is one reason I dont use a water pan throughout the whole cook anymore, at least with brisket or pork shoulder. That extra moisture that is added during that stall period only prolongs the stall. Now ill add a little water at the beginning to a drip pan, and once its gone, its gone.
I'm just the opposite. I use a disposable pan with just enough water to cover the bottom surface. I go this route to catch and preserve the drippings. That's liquid gold to me. When I wrap I use this same pan with a small wire rack/trivet in it. The trivet will keep the meat above the liquid helping me avoid a soggy bottom. This combo also allows me to wrap the meat at the pit so the meat doesn't cool too much.

Beautiful write-up Eric Clear and concise. It should garner a lot of useful discussion and information.

Point for sure
Chris
 
Nice write up @SmokinEdge. There's still other of variables that are part of the equation. Yeah, ambient temp and RH. Size of the meat being smoked, total weight being smoked, thermal mass of smoker as well. Heck I bet windspeed and other stuff play into as well.

What I agree with you ESPECIALLY is there are 2 different stalls. BBQ and sausage (cured stuff). BBQ stall is just part of the deal for me. Love the bark and not wrapping. My Smokefire seems to push through without much of an issue but in the day when I ran BBQ in the MES it was brutal. The 2nd type of stall, with sausage and cured stuff has kicked my butt a LONG time. Combination of warming product up prior to smoke, PID control, and the towel has pretty much put an end to it for me. Like I said in the other thread, the towel brought some other benefits as well. For those who do not know, I put a moisture wicking towel in the water pan to bump the RH up for sausage/cured stuff.

 
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