The Bull

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surlgurl

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Jul 14, 2017
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Whidbey Island, WA
Long post, please bear with me.

I’ve been researching The Bull with the Grand Champion package (to include the Smoker Box) and I'm almost ready to pull the "propane plug" from my MasterBuilt and go pellet.

First overall question:
•To those of you who own Rec Tec's The Bull with or without the smoker box, how do you like it?

More specific questions:

•What is the temperature on the LO setting in the main grill?
I like to do a "half-smoke" on my salmon before I pressure can it. I need a low heat but lots of smoke. Can I achieve that in the main grill?

•I can't seem to find the dimension/volume capacity on the smoker box itself. Do any of you know what the square inches of rack cook space is?

That aside, I prefer to smoking 10 fish filets at a time and I just know the smoker box cannot handle that capacity.

My current Masterbuilt has about 700sqin, and barely fits 6 filets. I love the idea that The Bull, with extra racks, is 1300sqin.

There are times I do a full smoke so I can have nice filets to give as gifts. I usually vac-seal them and freeze. I still wonder how low I can get the main grill- for those of you who smoke fish, albumin is a ugly disaster and I pride myself on never heating the fish enough to cause it.

Again, on my current smoker, I have to leave the door wide open to keep the temperature down. I tent a large towel over the opening to try to keep the smoke in. I also have problems with flare-ups and rapid rising heat if I’m not watching the pan like a hawk. I’m so tired of babysitting the smoker.

I wanna set it and forget it.

Tell me please, is this too much smoker for what I want to achieve? I also do ribs, roasts and briskets, so, this would be lovely for that without all the mother-hen antics. Being able to replenish pellets and adjusting the temp via app while I’m at work sounds so fantastical to me. The smoker box sounds amazing to be able to smoke soft cheese and condiments too.

Having said all that, my forté really is my smoked salmon. That’s my main goal while hunting for a new large capacity smoker.

Help. :) Suggestions?
 
Kit, morning....
As long as you are planning to pressure can the fish, why are you worried about heat ???
A cardboard box with wire racks will suffice.... The AMNPS with Alder pellets would be my choice, and a cold smoke for an hour or so for the smoke portion would do.. Pellicle formation in front of a fan, for the fish prep....
I have canned hundreds of pounds of salmon... I find the canning process increases the smoke flavor in the fish so a light smoke is very desirable...
https://www.amazenproducts.com/product_p/amnps5x8.htm
https://www.amazenproducts.com/product_p/amnp20-spl.htm
Todd owns Amazn Products... Long time member here... He has sales monthly... $50 usually gets free shipping... His pellets are 100% flavor wood where noted... I like his Alder pellets for salmon.... ALSO, you can make dust from his pellets cheaper than buying dust.. dust burns cooler than pellets, probably 20 deg. or so... depends on the smoker..
https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/threads/making-dust-from-pellets.271863/
 
Thank you Daveomak for your response! (And the great links)
We’ve used the smoke trays before and we bring one up with us when we go to Canada to a fishing lodge.

I’m curious though, (maybe I’m not in the creative mode of my brain right now) but what would be the heat source for the pellets if I were to go the cardboard box route? Is there a thread here about such a process?

The reason I’m worried about the heat in The Bull is because there are times I don’t smoke the fish just to can. I like a pretty filet- so again, albumin is the enemy with too much heat.
 
12-24 hours on a rack in the fridge to dry for the pellicle helps keeps Albumin inside.
 
You light the pellets with a torch... They generate a small amount of heat while they continue to smolder...

You let them burn for 10 minutes or so... blow out the flame and if they have enough oxygen, they full tray will smolder for about 10 ish hours...

Below is a tray that has been lit and it's smoldering... I pipe the smoke into my smoker through a 3" dryer flex aluminum hose.... The smoker acts as a chimney... The smoker body must be above ambient temp for it to draw properly and create a draft...

MailBox burning pellets.jpg .. Mailbox mod hooked up.jpg
 
You guys are so so awesome!
I guess the pan we bring with us is a little different then, it’s placed under the grill rack and smokes that way.

These are much better suggestions. Thank you!

(I’ve always managed to get a great pellicle on my salmon, but even that won’t stop albumin if the temp gets too high too fast— I just want a solution I don’t have to babysit.)
 
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