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bill o

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Jun 9, 2011
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Hello everyone I ‘m new and from Las Vegas, NV.

I’m retired after working in the oil fields of Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, for 25 years. Moved to LV for my health can’t stand the heat but from what I can tell it sure helps with the smoking. I remember smoking in Alaska it was quite tuff to keep your smoker @250f great for cold smoking but here in Vegas my smoker starts out at 115f before I put any fire to it. Fun trying to keep the temp down.  Retired
 
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Thank you all this looks like a great place to get information and read lots of interesting stories. I look forward to it. Also looking forward to talking to all of you and picking your brain, if you don’t mind passing on your secrets and recipes. Retired
 
 

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There was a show on the food network call meat and potatoes. They were in Seattle WA. at I thinks it was called TAT'S anyhow the question I have is should I soak my pastrami in hot water after smoking lke he did? Retired
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Welcome to the family, Bill!

Hmm, not sure what benefit the hot water bath would provide for pastrami, if any. It may even be detrimental to the overall finished product's flavor...don't know. I guess the theory is keep it moist and hot for a longer period, and then eat it straight out of the water bath (haven't seen the TV show, so I'm guessing here).

For my best pastrami smokes, I have smoked on open grate to finished temps of ~160-165*, then foiled and rested a bit. I have also smoked to 140-145* on open grate, then foiled and took to finished temps, then rested. The foiling will at times help with interior moisture in the finished pastrami (depending on your smoke chamber humidity), and it will reduce the formation of bark/crust on the surface. I've also found that taking the internal temp over the 160-165* range can create a drier pastrami, and it's nearly impossible to get that moisture back into the meat once it's gone, even with a sliced reheat. I like to chill well before slicing, but have eaten it straight out of the foil as well. It seems that it gets more tender after a steamed reheat, though. It likely has to do with the internal temps passing through the melting-pot temps (connective tissue's melting point) a second time. A good method for steamed reheating is to place the slices on an elevated grate in a covered roasting pan @ 225-250* oven temp with just a coupl eounces of liquid in the pan. Here's where you can gert a bit more creative with the flavor profile by using liquids which add additional flavor, such as whiskey, brandy or wine, fruit juices etc. The lower pH from the acidity of the liquor or fruit juice won't effect the cooked meat's texture much, not like it would if you were marinating raw meat. You're still using low & slow heat...can't rush a cut of brisket if you want it moist and tender. I've never had a home-cured & smoked pastrami we didn't like (they've all been fantastic eating), some were just a bit better thyan others. I think it's pretty hard to botch one up very badly during or after the smoke, but with the above methods, you should be very happy with the results.

Eric
 
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 Thank you for your reply Sir. I don't know why they did it unless it has something to do with making it Kosher. I'm not Jewish so don't know. Oh well I have three weeks to find out I just put my briskets in the Refrigerator for a nice long sleep.    

Bill
 
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 Thank you for your reply Sir. I don't know why they did it unless it has something to do with making it Kosher. I'm not Jewish so don't know. Oh well I have three weeks to find out I just put my briskets in the Refrigerator for a nice long sleep.    

Bill
Hi Bill It is nothing to do with kosher.it is to do with tenderness  if you take the whole brisket and you steam  it it will be vary vary vary soft. but you must eat the whole thing .or you steam the amount you want to eat .

when i got the need for pastrami on rye i pull out of the fridge few slices in to the steamer they go for an hour or so and then on the rye with mustard and sauerkraut  you will see it is soft and yummy. OK i must go i fell the need for pastrami
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I love smoking; the only problem is my wife has a very sensitive palate. I’ve tried Cherry, Apple and Mesquite. She says the smoke burns the back of her mouth.

I’ve tried not smoking too long; I’ve tried just one bowl of wood! She doesn’t complain when I smoke Salmon about any after taste or burning. Have never tried Pecan how's the smoke taste on that?

Any Ideas?
 
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