No Cook Venison

[Winterrider]

Your thoughts
(Cured venison vid , if it opens)

 

[Brokenhandle]

Not sure what to think... but I'll stick to about medium rare!

Ryan

 

[chef k-dude]

Only problem I had with the video is using a chefs knife on that glazed ceramic plate!

41 years ago as a young man, I was part of a team sent to recover a CH-53 chopper crash off the coast of the southern Japanese islands. For whatever reason (I wasn't in charge) we found ourselves off the coast of a fairly remote island. There was only a fishing village, but it had a small dock and hotel with a restaurant.

We put on our "going to town" duds, launched the Zodiac (ship was too big) and went in to see about getting a good meal. By the time we got on shore it was after 9PM and the restaurant's kitchen had closed. We explained that we came here specifically to get a meal and would appreciate anything, we would eat anything the chef prepared.

We were served deer sushi. These islands have whitetail deer just like we have in Virginia. True to our word, we ate it. It was delicious. Basically a Carpaccio marinated in soy sauce.

I got my wife to enjoy sashimi/sushi fish. She, like many was very skeptical, now she wont hesitate. I have some backstrap in the freezer, I dont think I would do this preparation but making Carpaccio with it is something I'd like to try. Convincing the wife might take a bit! But I "aint skeered"!

 

[crazymoon]

WR, Looks like a slice of biltong! LMAO on the stuffed?? squirrel in the fridge.

 

[luvcatchingbass]

WR, Looks like a slice of biltong! LMAO on the stuffed?? squirrel in the fridge.

Who says it is a stuffed squirl? If you look directly at it you can clearly see an open wound in the mid section.

Your thoughts
(Cured venison vid , if it opens)

This got posted on another outdoor circus forum called Nodak Angler. I was almost going to post it up here is hope to hear from some of the great minds. I've thought about different curing experiments using certain deer cuts but now with the population numbers so low I don't want to ruin the good stuff I have.

 

[SmokinEdge]

The process in the video is fine if you like salted raw venison tartare. Not for me though. The cure is absolutely gradient meaning time in salt is critical to final taste. For me a good cure mix including nitrates is needed then it’s about drying if not cooked. The meat piece needs to lose at least 30% of its original weight but 40% is better.

Sportsman do all kinds of crazy stuff with meat. Each to their own, but I would not use the recipe in the video personally.

 

[archeryrob]

WR, Looks like a slice of biltong! LMAO on the stuffed?? squirrel in the fridge.

I've put squirrels in the fridge but I typically gut and skin them first.

FYI, squirrels typically are flea bags so I hope he didn't put it in the warm. Watch squirrels and not how often they scratch in the summer.

 

[in. pred]

not sure it was curing long enough for me. id tend to shy away from that. and i wet aged deer meat in fridge 23day. lol as said some nitrates wouldnt hurt.

lol he is ageing the squirrel. didnt notice until i expanded the screen.

 

[chef k-dude]

I had to go back and look for the squirrel! That HAS to be a "squirrel on a shelf" thing to see how many people notice it. Everything else in the fridge looks normal. But, backwater rednecks have fridges and regular grocery stores too, so who knows, maybe people actually DO pick up roadkill and plop it in their fridge like that. Thing is, a proper redneck can have the thing gutted and skinned in a minute or two, its going out of your way to be nasty to plop a fleabag tree rat in your fridge like that. That's why I say its a prank

 

[indaswamp]

WR, Looks like a slice of biltong! LMAO on the stuffed?? squirrel in the fridge.

My guess is that his son shot it, and it is in the fridge to be mounted....

Winterrider - I would recommend weighing the piece before starting, and figure at least 30% weight loss after salting (though the meat will pick up salt and sugar during the 3 days, which will add weight.

I have never seen this process done before, but for someone without a drying chamber, this might work. But you could to the same with an EQ cure to precise salt concentration, and then umai bag in the fridge to dry....flavor would be better imo.

 

[Winterrider]

My guess is that his son shot it, and it is in the fridge to be mounted....

Winterrider - I would recommend weighing the piece before starting, and figure at least 30% weight loss after salting (though the meat will pick up salt and sugar during the 3 days, which will add weight.

I have never seen this process done before, but for someone without a drying chamber, this might work. But you could to the same with an EQ cure to precise salt concentration, and then umai bag in the fridge to dry....flavor would be better imo.

Not sure if ready to dive into, thought it was interesting anyhow

 

[in. pred]

dont look like too many with the guts to try it. lol <---included. mite be safer with tested deer meat. the deer sicknesses spready the country make me a bit leery.

 

[indaswamp]

dont look like too many with the guts to try it. lol <---included. mite be safer with tested deer meat. the deer sicknesses spready the country make me a bit leery.

Not to mention....he did say that was a road kill deer!

 

[luvcatchingbass]

dont look like too many with the guts to try it. lol <---included. mite be safer with tested deer meat. the deer sicknesses spready the country make me a bit leery.

What deer sickness are you referring to?

 

[in. pred]

2 making headlines around here. EHD and CWD.

 

[luvcatchingbass]

2 making headlines around here. EHD and CWD.

EHD is a real killer virus caused by midge that if researchers really wanted to find a way to help they probably could but they don't, not contagious to humans. EHD is a very fast killer
CWD prion that has been around since probably forever, zero proof that it is contagious to humans. There is yet to be a wildlife agency or research agency that can 100% verify a wild deers death to CWD. CWD is a multiple year potential killer, the true effects really can't be understood until agencies close hunting season for at least 4yrs

 

[indaswamp]

EHD is a real killer virus caused by midge that if researchers really wanted to find a way to help they probably could but they don't, not contagious to humans. EHD is a very fast killer
CWD prion that has been around since probably forever, zero proof that it is contagious to humans. There is yet to be a wildlife agency or research agency that can 100% verify a wild deers death to CWD. CWD is a multiple year potential killer, the true effects really can't be understood until agencies close hunting season for at least 4yrs

Hmm... interesting info. I thought one or both diseases had been introduced into the wild herds from pen raised deer operations. I'm curious though, how would closing the hunting seasons for 4 years benefit understanding these diseases? Not that I am against it-just curious. Do you have some links you could post for more information I could look through?

 

[luvcatchingbass]

Hmm... interesting info. I thought one or both diseases had been introduced into the wild herds from pen raised deer operations. I'm curious though, how would closing the hunting seasons for 4 years benefit understanding these diseases? Not that I am against it-just curious. Do you have some links you could post for more information I could look through?

I will have to look for some again and a couple of the podcasts, looking from both sides.
The idea on 4yrs for CWD is because of what a pro CWD "expert" and others have said that CWD deer can live for many years. Think about where and what time if year the game agencies are collecting most of their positive results, yup hunting season with samples brought in by hunters or at least that is how it is up here.
I just recommend each person do pay attention and think about what they are told. Do we all think CNN is a viable news media anymore?
If you look up Ted Nuggent's views he is very passionate but he can also be majorly overbearing.
I will ry to find those podcasts that I think do a good job, plus most probably will lead to other literature

 

[luvcatchingbass]

Hmm... interesting info. I thought one or both diseases had been introduced into the wild herds from pen raised deer operations. I'm curious though, how would closing the hunting seasons for 4 years benefit understanding these diseases? Not that I am against it-just curious. Do you have some links you could post for more information I could look through?

Here are some, hopefullyyou use Spotify. Interesting enough if you just search CWD there is a pile of Podcasts to binge on.
As someone who loves deer hunting and eating deer with now a 11 & 13yr old girls that Love Love Med Rare deer steak YES and issue like this is very important to me.