New MES Bluetooth Digital smoker

[remsr]

Creme brûlée torch (sorry about the miss fire) but I have had trouble keeping it lit on the left side. Does anyone have any experience with the tube? I haven't even tried it yet. I will try Bear's way on the right side with the tray. If that don't work I'll buy the ring or go back to my messy cold smoker that works great. There is nothing more aggravating than to cook for hours with little or no smoke because your equipment fails.

 

[brickguy221]

Creme brûlée torch (sorry about the miss fire) but I have had trouble keeping it lit on the left side. Does anyone have any experience with the tube? I haven't even tried it yet. I will try Bear's way on the right side with the tray. If that don't work I'll buy the ring or go back to my messy cold smoker that works great. There is nothing more aggravating than to cook for hours with little or no smoke because your equipment fails.

I have the Tube in addition to the AMPS. The Tube works better than the AMPS, at least it does for me. It puts out a wee bit more smoke than the AMPS. A few people don't like the amount of smoke it puts out while others like myself like the amount of smoke it puts out. Depends how much smoke you like on your meats.

If you have both the Tube and AMPS  and don't like the AMPS because of keeping it lit problems plus the minimum of smoke it puts out even when lit, use the Tube. That is what I did and liked it. However once I heard about the "Smoke Ring" from Smoke Daddy and bought one, I now prefer the "Smoke Ring" because it is easier to light, stays lit better than the AMPS and even the Tube which has failed me occasionally, but not like the AMPS does , and puts out the perfect amount of smoke to my liking. 

 

[Bearcarver]

 
I have the Tube in addition to the AMPS. The Tube works better than the AMPS, at least it does for me. It puts out a wee bit more smoke than the AMPS. A few people don't like the amount of smoke it puts out while others like myself like the amount of smoke it puts out. Depends how much smoke you like on your meats.

If you have both the Tube and AMPS  and don't like the AMPS because of keeping it lit problems plus the minimum of smoke it puts out even when lit, use the Tube. That is what I did and liked it. However once I heard about the "Smoke Ring" from Smoke Daddy and bought one, I now prefer the "Smoke Ring" because it is easier to light, stays lit better than the AMPS and even the Tube which has failed me occasionally, but not like the AMPS does , and puts out the perfect amount of smoke to my liking. 

You have to understand----"It depends on the individual Smoker". Not necessarily the amount of smoke you like on your meats.

You have trouble with your AMNPS, but your Tube works fine, and doesn't put out too much smoke---IN YOUR SMOKER.

I never have trouble with my AMNPS, and my Tube puts out too much smoke----IN MY SMOKER.

Do you see the relationship?

When an AMNPS works great in a smoker, the Tube will probably put out too much smoke in that same smoker.

When the Tube doesn't put out too much smoke in a particular smoker, the AMNPS could be hard to keep lit in that same smoker.

Bear

 

[brickguy221]

 
You have to understand----"It depends on the individual Smoker". Not necessarily the amount of smoke you like on your meats.

You have trouble with your AMNPS, but your Tube works fine, and doesn't put out too much smoke---IN YOUR SMOKER.

I never have trouble with my AMNPS, and my Tube puts out too much smoke----IN MY SMOKER.

Do you see the relationship?

When an AMNPS works great in a smoker, the Tube will probably put out too much smoke in that same smoker.

When the Tube doesn't put out too much smoke in a particular smoker, the AMNPS could be hard to keep lit in that same smoker.

Bear

You have to understand----- I already posted that some people like more smoke than others and that I myself like more  smoke on my meats.

 As for seeing the relationship, sure I see it as I believe I already pointed that out although not in the same words as you used.

I am happy for you that you like your AMPS and I am happy for me that I like my TUBE, and even more happy with the SMOKE RING as it is much easier to light than the AMPS or TUBE either one, faster to light, stays lit better and puts out the proper amount of smoke for my liking. I can live with the TUBE or SMOKE RING either one, I just like the SMOKE RING better.

 

[Bearcarver]

 
You have to understand----- I already posted that some people like more smoke than others and that I myself like more  smoke on my meats.

 As for seeing the relationship, sure I see it as I believe I already pointed that out although not in the same words as you used.

I am happy for you that you like your AMPS and I am happy for me that I like my TUBE, and even more happy with the SMOKE RING as it is much easier to light than the AMPS or TUBE either one, faster to light, stays lit better and puts out the proper amount of smoke for my liking. I can live with the TUBE or SMOKE RING either one, I just like the SMOKE RING better.

You obviously missed my point:

My point was that it's not that some like more smoke than others, even though some (Like Me) do.

It's that different smoke generators work differently in different smokers.

The fact that you like the amount of smoke the tube puts out, and I don't, doesn't mean you like more smoke than I or anyone else does. It mainly means that your smoker doesn't get as much smoke from the Tube, or from the AMNPS.

Everybody should use what they like to use. I didn't say anything different.

I can't say anything good or bad about the SR, because I never tried it, and since my AMNPS works perfectly in my MES, I have no reason to try it.

My explanation in Post #1323 was only to help people understand that those who have trouble with getting an AMNPS to keep going, will probably like the Tube.

However those who have no trouble with the AMNPS will probably find the Tube will put out more smoke than they want for their smoker, even if they like a lot of smoke, like I do. (as long as it's not so thick that it causes creosote)

Hope that's more clear,

Bear

 

[brickguy221]

 
You obviously missed my point:

My point was that it's not that some like more smoke than others, even though some (Like Me) do.

It's that different smoke generators work differently in different smokers.

The fact that you like the amount of smoke the tube puts out, and I don't, doesn't mean you like more smoke than I or anyone else does. It mainly means that your smoker doesn't get as much smoke from the Tube, or from the AMNPS.

Everybody should use what they like to use. I didn't say anything different.

I can't say anything good or bad about the SR, because I never tried it, and since my AMNPS works perfectly in my MES, I have no reason to try it.

My explanation in Post #1323 was only to help people understand that those who have trouble with getting an AMNPS to keep going, will probably like the Tube.

However those who have no trouble with the AMNPS will probably find the Tube will put out more smoke than they want for their smoker, even if they like a lot of smoke, like I do. (as long as it's not so thick that it causes creosote)

Hope that's more clear,

Bear

I never missed your point at all but I think you missed mine  as I was only trying to point out to you that you were saying the same thing that  I already said. As for the SR, you wouldn't like it as it will put out too much smoke for you since you prefer just barely any smoke. Nothing wrong with that. You and others like less and I and others like more, so if you and others can keep the AMPS lit, you will be happy with it's small of smoke and I and others will be happy with the TUBE because it puts out more smoke and I even happier with the SMOKE RING because it much easier to light, faster to get the "Red Cigar" red and smoker smoking, stays lit and never goes out and puts out the right amount of smoke to my liking. As I said in post #1324, I can live with the TUBE or SMOKE RING either one but prefer the SMOKE RING for the reasons given here and in that post.

For those that the AMPS doesn't work for, they will find it works well in a Weber Charcoal Grill using wood chips in it and laying it down beside the charcoal coals.

 

[dennispfaff]

I personally haven't had any problem with smoke, but next time I'm going to give Bear's suggestion a try by removing the chip tray and placing the AMNPS on the bottom shelf on the RIGHT side. My issue is...and why I haven't been on this forum much lately...is that my wife is such a good cook from inside the house. [emoji]128539[/emoji]
Dennis

 

[Bearcarver]

I personally haven't had any problem with smoke, but next time I'm going to give Bear's suggestion a try by removing the chip tray and placing the AMNPS on the bottom shelf on the RIGHT side. My issue is...and why I haven't been on this forum much lately...is that my wife is such a good cook from inside the house. [emoji]128539[/emoji]
Dennis

Actually Dennis, I never removed the chip tray on any of my MES units. I pull the Dumper Tube out of my Gen #2.5 with the AMNPS on the right, just above the Dumper Tube on the bottom rack.

I don't know what removing the chip tray would do, either good or bad.

Bear

 

[smokingearl]

An AMPS that's in a smoker that stays lit and burns perfectly will provide an incredible amount of smoke flavor in meats. Even too much for some. So if your amps is hard to keep lit in your smoker, then even if you manage to keep it lit it's not gonna provide as much smoke flavor as it will in a smoker where it stays lit easily. The smoke ring pellets are 30% charcoal, so if I was to use it in my smoker, which burns the AMPS perfectly for 11 hours while giving a tremendous amount of smoke flavor, I can't see how the smoke ring could give more smoke flavor when the pellets are 30% charcoal. But I'll never know cuz I'm broke and my amps works perfectly lol

 

[brickguy221]

I personally haven't had any problem with smoke, but next time I'm going to give Bear's suggestion a try by removing the chip tray and placing the AMNPS on the bottom shelf on the RIGHT side. My issue is...and why I haven't been on this forum much lately...is that my wife is such a good cook from inside the house. [emoji]128539[/emoji]
Dennis

I once had that problem Dennis, but I lost my wife to cancer in Feb of this year, so I no longer have that problem, but haven't been on much because I haven't felt up to it plus my health problems. I am 79 and have had Stage IV Cancer for 4 1/2+ years now, so my time is is drawing near. I have just now recently began getting back on this site, but for how much longer, I don't know.

 

[dennispfaff]

So sorry to hear about your wife Jim, and your health also.

 

[remsr]

Thanks, I am getting sold on that smoke ring. I have little tolerance for things that don't perform well when I have close to a hundred dollars worth of meat loaded in the smoker.

 

[mummel]

 
I once had that problem Dennis, but I lost my wife to cancer in Feb of this year, so I no longer have that problem, but haven't been on much because I haven't felt up to it plus my health problems. I am 79 and have had Stage IV Cancer for 4 1/2+ years now, so my time is is drawing near. I have just now recently began getting back on this site, but for how much longer, I don't know.

Im so sorry.

 

[remsr]

Want lots of smoke from the ANMPS lite both ends, but you won't like it. I tryed it and holly smoke (no pun intended).
Randy,

 

[Bearcarver]

Want lots of smoke from the ANMPS lite both ends, but you won't like it. I tryed it and holly smoke (no pun intended).
Randy,

Exactly!

Me too----I tried it one time----Too heavy a smoke. I put the one end out !!

I like a lot of Hickory smoke, but only by a long time of light smoke---Not by smoke that's too heavy.

Bear

 

[hattles]

Thanks for the excellent test Brickguy221. I personally use a hand held lantern sized propane bottle with a torch to light my SmkDdy pellets and it takes about a minute to get it lit. Took me a couple of trys to get it lit right [emoji]128077[/emoji][emoji]128077[/emoji][emoji]128077[/emoji]

 

[brickguy221]

I use a real small butane torch that cost approx $15 - $20, so it takes a bit linger with a torch that small. I should have bought a larger propane torch like many use, but didn't

 

[dennispfaff]

Actually Dennis, I never removed the chip tray on any of my MES units. I pull the Dumper Tube out of my Gen #2.5 with the AMNPS on the right, just above the Dumper Tube on the bottom rack.

I don't know what removing the chip tray would do, either good or bad.


Bear

Bear,
I am smoking ribs now. I first tried the ANNPS 5x8 tray on the bottom shelf right side, but moved it over a bit to the center. Seems to provide an even smoke distribution from the center. I don't know if it helps, but I removed the chip loader and the chip tray. I am smoking a rack of ribs using pecan, and using the drip pan with Apple juice. So far so good.
Dennis

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• dennispfaff
• Sep 10, 2016

 

[Bearcarver]

Bear,
I am smoking ribs now. I first tried the ANNPS 5x8 tray on the bottom shelf right side, but moved it over a bit to the center. Seems to provide an even smoke distribution from the center. I don't know if it helps, but I removed the chip loader and the chip tray. I am smoking a rack of ribs using pecan, and using the drip pan with Apple juice. So far so good.
Dennis
 

OK---Anywhere on that bottom rack should be good, but I think the farther to the right the better it smokes.

I never removed the Chip Tray, but I pull the Dumper out a couple inches to give it more air.

I'd be careful with removing the Dumper completely. One of the times I did that, I had about a 5" high flame coming from my AMNPS.

I put the flame out, and put the Dumper back in---It didn't happen again.

Also: I never put any liquid in my Water Pan. I found it does nothing good---only bad.

Bear

 

[dennispfaff]

Also: I never put any liquid in my Water Pan. I found it does nothing good---only bad.

Bear
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Our ribs turned out excellent. I did not wrap them by the way, just smoked them for 6 hrs at 225. What is the downside of putting liquid in the drip Pan?
Den